Simple rules questions

Some simple stuff I can't figure out... I've nearly memorized the rules and faqs but couldn't find conclusive answers on these- 1) If I'm equipping/employing retainer/ally, do I show the card BEFORE or AFTER they decide to block? My friends think that you only show the card afterwards, but I can't find any mention of this. Answers? 2) If I attempt to steal more blood than a vamp has, does it go to torpor? (I realize I only get the blood that is avail. to steal.) -- Greg Janson Software Visions ** "That's not a bug... it's a feature!" ** Tsukino hikariwa AI no Message! ** Sailor Moon Forever! ^_^

Greg Janson <gja...@earthlink.net> writes: >Some simple stuff I can't figure out... I've nearly memorized the >rules and faqs but couldn't find conclusive answers on these- >1) If I'm equipping/employing retainer/ally, do I show the card >BEFORE or AFTER they decide to block? My friends think that you >only show the card afterwards, but I can't find any mention of >this. Answers? Before. All library cards are exposed as they are played. >2) If I attempt to steal more blood than a vamp has, does it go >to torpor? (I realize I only get the blood that is avail. to >steal.) No. Only unhealed damage can send a vampire to torpor (this includes all aggravated damage, since aggravated damage cannot be healed by definition). Anything else that sends a vampire to torpor will state so explicitly on the card (Day Operation, NosPerformance Art, etc.) -- L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.sc.edu) | Ensign Crusher, check that http://www.math.sc.edu/~sjohnson | leaky warp core please. Graphics Specialist and V:tES Rulemonger. |

In article <3212DD...@earthlink.net>, Greg Janson <gja...@earthlink.net> wrote: > Some simple stuff I can't figure out... I've nearly memorized the > rules and faqs but couldn't find conclusive answers on these- > > 1) If I'm equipping/employing retainer/ally, do I show the card > BEFORE or AFTER they decide to block? My friends think that you > only show the card afterwards, but I can't find any mention of > this. Answers? No, you show the card first. > 2) If I attempt to steal more blood than a vamp has, does it go > to torpor? (I realize I only get the blood that is avail. to > steal.) No, it is still ready with zero blood, unless also damaged. J. Andrew Lipscomb <ew...@chattanooga.net, them...@delphi.com> PGP keys by request

L. Scott Johnson wrote: Thanks for the answers- > No. Only unhealed damage can send a vampire to torpor (this includes > all aggravated damage, since aggravated damage cannot be healed by One other question- I saw different answers in different FAQ versions and couldn't figure out which was most recent, sooooo... Does the first point of aggravated damage remove a point of blood, or just send to torpor? For example, if my vamp takes 2 agg. dmg, it goes to torpor. Does it lose 1 or 2 blood? The original Jyhad rules said it lost 1... but the FAQs i've read sometimes say differently. [ quoted text not captured ]

Greg Janson <gja...@earthlink.net> writes: >L. Scott Johnson wrote: >> No. Only unhealed damage can send a vampire to torpor (this includes >> all aggravated damage, since aggravated damage cannot be healed by >One other question- I saw different answers in different FAQ versions >and >couldn't figure out which was most recent, sooooo... >Does the first point of aggravated damage remove a point of blood, or >just >send to torpor? For example, if my vamp takes 2 agg. dmg, it goes to >torpor. >Does it lose 1 or 2 blood? The original Jyhad rules said it lost 1... >but >the FAQs i've read sometimes say differently. In Jyhad, you lose 1. In VtES, you lose 2. This was one of the primary changes from Jyhad to VtES, and it was done to simplify the proces of applying multiple batches of agg. -- L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.sc.edu) | A one-bit brain with a http://www.math.sc.edu/~sjohnson | parity error. [ quoted text not captured ]

Greg Janson wrote: > > L. Scott Johnson wrote: > > Thanks for the answers- > > > No. Only unhealed damage can send a vampire to torpor (this includes > > all aggravated damage, since aggravated damage cannot be healed by > > One other question- I saw different answers in different FAQ versions and > couldn't figure out which was most recent, sooooo... > > Does the first point of aggravated damage remove a point of blood, or just > send to torpor? For example, if my vamp takes 2 agg. dmg, it goes to torpor. > Does it lose 1 or 2 blood? The original Jyhad rules said it lost 1... but > the FAQs i've read sometimes say differently. > -- > Greg Janson > Software Visions > ** "That's not a bug... it's a feature!" > ** Tsukino hikariwa AI no Message! > ** Sailor Moon Forever! ^_^ Under the original Jyhad rules you have it correct. But V:tES changes the aggravated damage rules so that a 1 point agravated damage hit removes a blood and puts the vampire in topor. This meas a pulled fangs on a vampire with 0 blood burns the vampire. This was the single greatest change between the Jyhad and V:tES rules. (See Advanced Combat, section 3, Aggravated damage on page 48 of the V:tES rules).