Some "back from the grave" questions

Hy, i need some answers for the following: can Compel the Spirit rescue a burned jake washington (hunter) ? can CtS move from the grave a burned retainer created via death pact ? can daemonic possession (or possession, or augustus's ability), move a burned vampire created via the embrace (or similar means, like third tradition/abomination/creation rites) ? thanks in advance Emiliano , v:ekn prince of Rome

>can Compel the Spirit rescue a burned jake washington (hunter) ? >can CtS move from the grave a burned retainer created via death pact ? > >can daemonic possession (or possession, or augustus's ability), > move a burned vampire created via the embrace >(or similar means, like third tradition/abomination/creation rites) ? No to all of them because they do not count as allies/retainers/vampires while in the ash heap. While in the ash heap, they are simply minion or master cards respectively. Similarly, when in your hand, Jake Washington counts as a Master card not an Ally card (in regards to Egothha's special and Cull the Herd). Halcyan 2

tetragrammaton wrote: > > Hy, > i need some answers for the following: > > can Compel the Spirit rescue a burned jake washington (hunter) ? No. > can CtS move from the grave a burned retainer created via death pact ? No. > can daemonic possession (or possession, or augustus's ability), > move a burned vampire created via the embrace > (or similar means, like third tradition/abomination/creation rites) ? No. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> ha scritto nel messaggio news:3CEE8402...@white-wolf.com... > tetragrammaton wrote: > > > > Hy, > > i need some answers for the following: > > > > can Compel the Spirit rescue a burned jake washington (hunter) ? > > No. > > > can CtS move from the grave a burned retainer created via death pact ? > > No. > > > can daemonic possession (or possession, or augustus's ability), > > move a burned vampire created via the embrace > > (or similar means, like third tradition/abomination/creation rites) ? > > No. > As a side note: why such a "vampire" (created via an embrace, for ex) can be still influenced if he's banished back in the uncotrolled region (where it is not longer "in play"), and does not count as "vampire" while in the ash heap (still "not in play" there) ? Thanks in advance Emiliano > --

tetragrammaton wrote: > As a side note: why such a "vampire" (created via an embrace, for ex) > can be still influenced if he's banished back in the uncotrolled region > (where it is not longer "in play"), > and does not count as "vampire" while in the ash heap (still "not in play" > there) ? Cards in the ash heap are merely what they say they are. The vampire moved to the uncontrolled region has been ruled (some would say arbitrarily) to still be a vampire. [ quoted text not captured ]