rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Sudden Reversal Q

7 messages from 6 participants · 11 February 2002 – 12 February 2002
original thread on Google Groups

Brian Iverson

I may have already figured this one out, but I wanted to be sure and get some other players opinions. Here is the example of play: Mike plays Minion Tap. Brian plays Sudden Reversal to cancel the Minion Tap Mike plays Sudden Reversal to cancel Brian's Sudden Reversal. Is that a legal play? We finally decided that it was, and that the Minion Tap was successful. The only thing I was not sure about is whether or not you can play Sudden Reversal on your own turn, and it can only be played during another Methuselah's turn. Comments please. Thanks. -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG

LSJ

Brian Iverson wrote: > > I may have already figured this one out, but I wanted to be sure and get > some other players opinions. > > Here is the example of play: > > Mike plays Minion Tap. > Brian plays Sudden Reversal to cancel the Minion Tap > > Mike plays Sudden Reversal to cancel Brian's Sudden Reversal. > > Is that a legal play? We finally decided that it was, and that the > Minion Tap was successful. No. > The only thing I was not sure about is whether or not you can play > Sudden Reversal on your own turn, and it can only be played during > another Methuselah's turn. See 1.6.2.3 -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

Reyda

"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:3C67DDF1...@white-wolf.com... > Brian Iverson wrote: > > Mike plays Minion Tap. > > Brian plays Sudden Reversal to cancel the Minion Tap > > > > Mike plays Sudden Reversal to cancel Brian's Sudden Reversal. point 1- mike cannot play a master out of turn during his turn (barring special text on the card -example : Contengency planning) point 2- mike just played a master card. (If a card in play grants him a second maser phase action, it's okay to play a second one, as long as you don't violate point 2) > > Is that a legal play? We finally decided that it was, and that the > > Minion Tap was successful. > > No. As LSJ stated, you made a mistake. Brian's sudden could have been suddened by another player than mike, though =) > > The only thing I was not sure about is whether or not you can play > > Sudden Reversal on your own turn, and it can only be played during > > another Methuselah's turn. > > See 1.6.2.3 Errmm this is a shorter way to say "that means you cannot do so since the rulebook clearly states so." LSJ likes short answers, you know ;) [ quoted text not captured ]

Archibald Zimonyi

LSJ wrote: > Brian Iverson wrote: > >>I may have already figured this one out, but I wanted to be sure and get >>some other players opinions. >> >>Here is the example of play: >> >>Mike plays Minion Tap. >>Brian plays Sudden Reversal to cancel the Minion Tap >> >>Mike plays Sudden Reversal to cancel Brian's Sudden Reversal. >> >>Is that a legal play? We finally decided that it was, and that the >>Minion Tap was successful. >> > > No. > > >>The only thing I was not sure about is whether or not you can play >>Sudden Reversal on your own turn, and it can only be played during >>another Methuselah's turn. >> > > See 1.6.2.3 > However if Bob (a third player) plays Sudden Reversal on Brian's Sudden Reversal then the Minion Tap would be successful. Archibald Zimonyi Malkavian Prince of Gothenburg

Talo...@nospam.hotmail.com

On Mon, 11 Feb 2002 23:42:35 +0100, "Reyda" <re...@noos.fr> wrote: >As LSJ stated, you made a mistake. Brian's sudden could have been suddened >by another player than mike, though =) Ermmmmm...can it? T

Reyda

<Talo...@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3c69869a.65326970@news... [ quoted text not captured ] of course ! you can a sudden with an other sudden, which can be suddened by a sudden from a fourth guy.

Joshua Duffin

<Talo...@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3c69869a.65326970@news... [ quoted text not captured ] Yes, Reyda is right. An OOT master can be canceled as it is played by Sudden Reversal just as well as a "normal" master. Josh suddening the sudden sudden (funny that "sudden" is usually the verb rather than "reverse" isn't it?)