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Become Caitiff = Become Camarilla? (LSJ)

3 messages from 3 participants · 04 December 2008
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jwjbw...@gmail.com

I have a question concerning the precise wording of the sect-switch rule from section 10 of the rulebook: "If a vampire changes clans [,,,] to a clan that belongs to a different sect, he changes sect as well." Malvalvis (caitiff) Clan Impersonates a Salubri, becoming Independent. Later, she burns the Clan Impersonation, becoming Caitiff again. By becoming Caitiff, she has just changed clans, certainly, since gaining or losing a clan is a change in clan. But she has not "change [d] clans [...] to a clan ...". So does she remain independent?

dog$

> 1- Lucita impersonates a Settite (She remains independent, but card text > is, in a way, superceded, since her Independent status is no longer > based on card text, but on the sect of her new clan). She didn't change clans to a clan of a different sect, so her sect has not been superceded. She remains Independent. > 2- Lucita burns the Impersonation (becoming Lasombra again). > So is her original independent status (by card text) now restored, or does > she now become Sabbat, since she has just changed into a Lasombra, and > Lasombra are a Sabbat clan? Now she has changed clans to a clan (Lasombra) which belongs to a different sect than the sect to which she currently belongs. So she changes sect to match the sect of her new clan (Sabbat). http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/browse_thread/thread/6ccdea8836392a5b?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&oe=ISO-8859-1&q=lucita+clan+impersonation+group:rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad+author:LSJ

LSJ

[ quoted text not captured ] No. She becomes Camarilla. Changing to Caitiff is handled the same as changing to a clan.