[ LSJ ] Questions about: Caseless Rounds & magazine, Events

I've some questions... did you confirm my answers? ************************************* * Caseless Rounds & magazine + guns * ************************************* CASE 1) Caseless Rounds & magazine + .44 magnum I've a .44 magnum and I have played on it magazine + caseless rounds. 1.A) If I don't want to use the caseless effect I don't have to pay? TRUE? 1.B) I can't cumulate blur + caseless...(2 sources of additional strikes) TRUE? 1.C) Can I cumulate [CEL]quickness with 'caseless' effect? I.E strike for 1 hand dmg, 'quickness' additional .44 magnum strike, <before resolution> pay 1 pool and use caseless, solve the strike, caseless additional strike, solve this additional. TRUE? 1.D) Can I declare a .44's strike and wait the declaration of an opponent strike before using the 'caseless' option? 1.E) How if the opposing acting vampire decide to change his strike via 'Primal Instincts' from a S:CE to 'any other strike you want'? Can I declare now the use of a caseless round (if I've declared to use my gun)? TRUE? CASE 2) Caseless Rounds & magazine + Combat Shotgun 2.A) It's legal t play Caseless Rounds & magazine on a Combat Shotgun? TRUE? 2.B) Can I take advantage from a 'caseless rounds'? FALSE (because of the limitation of that weapon)? CASE 3) Caseless Rounds & magazine + Sawed-Off Shotgun 3.A) It's legal t play Caseless Rounds & magazine on a Sawed-Off Shotgun? TRUE? 3.B) Can I take advantage from a 'caseless rounds' and have an additional 'shotgun' strike? FALSE? ********** * Events * ********** <<Event is a new type of library card. Once each discard phase, a Methuselah may use a discard phase action to put an event card in play. Each event can only be played once in a game. It is neither a master card nor a minion card and is controlled by the Methuselah who played it.>> I can't play a second copy of an event. But how if an event is cancelled or removed from the game by a card. Can I play it again? 4.A) If someone removes an event via Black Hand Ritual? Can that event be played again? FALSE? 4.B) How if the event is cancelled by Ian Pieterzoon ADV ability? Can that event be played again? TRUE? 4.C) How if the event is cancelled by Emergency Preparations ADV ability? Can that event be played again? TRUE? 4.D) If a player who controls an event is ousted can I play that event again? FALSE? I put here the card text for clarity. .44 Magnum 2R damage each strike, with an optional maneuver each combat. Black Hand Ritual Untap a younger Black Hand vampire or (D) burn any Gehenna card in play. Any "Do not replace until" directive on that card is ended (and the controller draws to replace it, if it hadn't been replaced yet). Caseless Rounds Ammo. Only usable before resolution of a gun's strike. For the remainder of combat, once each round when the bearer strikes with this gun, the bearer gets an optional additional strike, only usable to strike with this gun. No more than one ammo card can be used on a gun card each combat. Combat Shotgun 3R damage each strike, only usable once each round. Emergency Preparations Master out-of-turn. Burn 1 pool to cancel a Gehenna card as it is played. Alternatively, if there are at least two Gehenna cards in play, you may play this card during your minion phase to untap a vampire with a capacity above 7. Jan Pieterzoon Advanced, Independent: Jan may burn 3 blood to cancel a Gehenna card as it is played. Magazine Only usable before range is determined. Put this card on a gun on this minion and put an ammo card from your hand on this card. When using this gun, you may use the effect of the ammo card as if it were played from your hand. Pay cost as normal. Primal Instincts [aus] Strike: dodge. [AUS] Only usable by the acting vampire after the opposing minion has chosen his or her strike. Cancel this acting vampire's strike and choose a new one. Sawed-Off Shotgun 3R damage each strike. This weapon is only usable once each combat. Thanks in advance for your help! Best deranges, RavATwoFaces

"RavATwoFaces" <RavATw...@vampirethemasquerade.com> wrote in message news:1701e7a4.04062...@posting.google.com... > I've a .44 magnum and I have played on it magazine + caseless rounds. > 1.A) If I don't want to use the caseless effect I don't have to pay? Right. Card text on Magazine: "you may use" > 1.B) I can't cumulate blur + caseless...(2 sources of additional > strikes) TRUE? Right. Only one additional strike gaining effect per round. > 1.C) Can I cumulate [CEL]quickness with 'caseless' effect? Yes, by card text on superior Quickness. > 1.D) Can I declare a .44's strike and wait the declaration of an > opponent strike before using the 'caseless' option? Yes. > 1.E) How if the opposing acting vampire decide to change his strike > via 'Primal Instincts' from a S:CE to 'any other strike you want'? Can > I declare now the use of a caseless round (if I've declared to use my > gun)? TRUE? Yes. > Caseless Rounds & magazine + Combat Shotgun > 2.A) It's legal t play Caseless Rounds & magazine on a Combat Shotgun? Yes. > 2.B) Can I take advantage from a 'caseless rounds'? FALSE (because of > the limitation of that weapon)? Correct. Even with Blur, Caseless Rounds, whatever other method of gaining additional strikes you have, the Combat Shotgun can only be used once each round. > Caseless Rounds & magazine + Sawed-Off Shotgun > 3.A) It's legal t play Caseless Rounds & magazine on a Sawed-Off > Shotgun? TRUE? Yes. > 3.B) Can I take advantage from a 'caseless rounds' and have an > additional 'shotgun' strike? FALSE? Correct: you cannot. > I can't play a second copy of an event. But how if an event is > cancelled or removed from the game by a card. > Can I play it again? No. Each event can only be played once each game. > 4.A) If someone removes an event via Black Hand Ritual? Can that event > be played again? FALSE? Correct. > 4.B) How if the event is cancelled by Ian Pieterzoon ADV ability? Can > that event be played again? TRUE? No, it can only be played once. > 4.C) How if the event is cancelled by Emergency Preparations ADV > ability? Can that event be played again? TRUE? No. It can only be played once. > 4.D) If a player who controls an event is ousted can I play that event > again? FALSE? Correct. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

..and remember, if you put Caseless Rounds in a Magazine, you have to pay 1 pool *every time* you generate the additional strike.

LSJ wrote: > "RavATwoFaces" <RavATw...@vampirethemasquerade.com> wrote in > message news:1701e7a4.04062...@posting.google.com... >> I've a .44 magnum and I have played on it magazine + caseless rounds. >> 1.A) If I don't want to use the caseless effect I don't have to pay? > > Right. > Card text on Magazine: "you may use" > Does the magazine makes me to pay the pool each time i use the caseless magazined round ? thanks Emiliano,v:ekn Prince of Rome

"Tetragrammaton" <no...@usa.com> wrote in message news:2ju44vF...@uni-berlin.de... > Does the magazine makes me to pay the pool each time > i use the caseless magazined round ? Yes. Cost is paid as normal. [ quoted text not captured ]

Jozxyqk wrote: > ..and remember, if you put Caseless Rounds in a Magazine, you have to pay > 1 pool *every time* you generate the additional strike. I believe it is every _combat_ you use it, not every time you generate _the_ additional strike.

hawk_the_demon wrote: > I believe it is every _combat_ you use it, not every time you generate > _the_ additional strike. Correct. Once you've "used" the Caseless Rounds from the Magazine, it applies for the entire combat. --Colin McGuigan

"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:<cbc3dh$6m5$1...@hartwell.cse.sc.edu>... > "RavATwoFaces" <RavATw...@vampirethemasquerade.com> wrote in message news:1701e7a4.04062...@posting.google.com... Thanks for the answers... I've another question: If I recruit a Shadow Court Satyr and I put a 'caseless rounds' card on him... Then he got a gun. I've to pay the caseless effect created by the Satyr or not? The Satyr's text states he has to pay only blood cost. Best regards, Andrea RAVERA

RavATwoFaces wrote: > "LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:<cbc3dh$6m5$1...@hartwell.cse.sc.edu>... > >>"RavATwoFaces" <RavATw...@vampirethemasquerade.com> wrote in message news:1701e7a4.04062...@posting.google.com... > > > Thanks for the answers... I've another question: > > If I recruit a Shadow Court Satyr and I put a 'caseless rounds' card on him... > Then he got a gun. > I've to pay the caseless effect created by the Satyr or not? Of course. > The Satyr's text states he has to pay only blood cost. No. It says he can play cards that have cost by paying life. He can't use life to pay for pool costs, though. Those still come from your pool. [ quoted text not captured ]

Another question... (why newby players don't trust me?) to quit all the quarrelings in my group. Can I have 2 magazine and 2 ammo on a single weapon? I think it's ok, but I've to use a single ammo effect per combat. True? (thanks for the patience) RavATwoFaces

RavATwoFaces wrote: > Another question... (why newby players don't trust me?) to quit all > the quarrelings in my group. > > Can I have 2 magazine and 2 ammo on a single weapon? > I think it's ok, but I [can only] use a single ammo effect per combat. > > True? True. [ quoted text not captured ]

On Wed, 30 Jun 2004, LSJ wrote: > True. Look guys! It must be a new verison of LSJ! Probably version 2.0. Ah, it's great to see progress. . . . Ankur Gupta Prince of West Lafayette, IN

Ankur Gupta wrote: > Look guys! It must be a new verison of LSJ! Probably version 2.0. > > Ah, it's great to see progress. . . . I'm glad to see they made this one more human-sounding. =) --Colin McGuigan