rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Stolen Blood Question

4 messages from 3 participants · 03 March 1997 – 05 March 1997
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Rob LeGood

Quick question on stealing blood. In the rules it states that blood stolen in excess of the vamp capacity is burned. From my understand, stolen blood is not damage and hence cannot be prevent by fortitude-type prevention cards. The rules also state that if a vamp cannot prevent all the damage done to it (by buring its own blood) it goes to torpor. So, since stealing blood is not damage, would a vampire go to torpor if more blood were stolen that it had. (i.e. VampA has 1 blood, VampB plays sup. Theft of Vitae (steal 2 blood). Does VampA go to torpor?) -- rob. (rfle...@ix.netcom.com) NOTE: If you wish to respond to me via email, please remove the * from the return address!

L. Scott Johnson

Rob LeGood wrote: > > Quick question on stealing blood. > > In the rules it states that blood stolen in excess of the vamp capacity > is burned. Yes. If you have 4 blood and are a 5 capacity vampire and steal 2 blood from a vampire, then you gain 2. The excess of your capacity (the 1 blood over 5 you now have) is burned, leaving you at 5. > From my understand, stolen blood is not damage and hence cannot be > prevent by fortitude-type prevention cards. Or any other type of damage prevention cards, true. > The rules also state that if a vamp cannot prevent all the damage done > to it (by buring its own blood) it goes to torpor. True. > So, since stealing blood is not damage, would a vampire go to torpor if > more blood were stolen that it had. (i.e. VampA has 1 blood, VampB plays > sup. Theft of Vitae (steal 2 blood). Does VampA go to torpor?) No, it would lose all of its blood. That amount would go to the stealing vampire. If any of that amount causes the stealing vampire's blood to exceed his capacity, the excess blood is burned. In this case, VampA would be left empty (having had 1 blood stolen), and VampB would gain 1 blood. If vampB was already at capacity, then the one would be in excess of his capacity, and the blood would be burned, leaving Vamp B at capacity still. Vamp A does not go to torpor, since he has not taken any damage, much less damage that he cannot prevent or heal. -- L. Scott Johnson (vte...@regency.wizards.com) Official VtES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. (*) - Subject to review by Rules Team

afl...@charon.usc.edu

> > In the rules it states that blood stolen in excess of the vamp capacity > > is burned. > Yes. If you have 4 blood and are a 5 capacity vampire and steal > 2 blood from a vampire, then you gain 2. The excess of your capacity > (the 1 blood over 5 you now have) is burned, leaving you at 5. When exactly does it 'bleed off'? Frex : 1) 'A' has 4 blood and is a 5 capacity vampire 2) 'A' steals 2 blood from 'B' 3) 'B' does 3 points of damage to 'A' 4) Resolve strikes. 5) During damage prevention, 'A' playes Skin of Steel Now, at 6) does 'A' have 5 blood [4 + 2(stolen) -1(SoS)]? or, does 'A' have 4 blood [4 + 2 - 1(excess) -1 (SoS)]? Thanks, Alan (aj)

L. Scott Johnson

afl...@charon.usc.edu wrote: > > > In the rules it states that blood stolen in excess of the vamp capacity > > > is burned. > > Yes. If you have 4 blood and are a 5 capacity vampire and steal > > 2 blood from a vampire, then you gain 2. The excess of your capacity > > (the 1 blood over 5 you now have) is burned, leaving you at 5. > > When exactly does it 'bleed off'? Instantly. In the same moment (resolution sub-phase) in which the blood was stolen. > Frex : > 1) 'A' has 4 blood and is a 5 capacity vampire > 2) 'A' steals 2 blood from 'B' > 3) 'B' does 3 points of damage to 'A' > 4) Resolve strikes. > 5) During damage prevention, 'A' playes Skin of Steel The excess drains off in 4), before damage is prevented/healed. > Now, at 6) does 'A' have 5 blood [4 + 2(stolen) -1(SoS)]? > or, does 'A' have 4 blood [4 + 2 - 1(excess) -1 (SoS)]? 'A' has 4. [ quoted text not captured ]