Hello,
I have again some questions concerning Mask of 1000 Faces :
Dimple attempts a hunt.
David Morgan (+1 intercept against 2 caps and less) attempts to block.
Can Arika mask the action ?
My guess is "No", since David's intercept has been applied and could
not have been if Arika were acting.
If I am wrong and she could, could she play it at superior to gain
stealth ? Dimple needs stealth but Arika wouldn't.
Similarly :
Normal attempts a hunt.
Selma (+1 intercept against Nosferatu) attempts to block.
Even before she gains intercept, Aggrippina wants to play Mask (I
guess she can).
Can she play it at superior to gain stealth ? Normal does not need
stealth but Aggrippina would.
Thank you again !
François.
François wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
> I have again some questions concerning Mask of 1000 Faces :
>
>
> Dimple attempts a hunt.
> David Morgan (+1 intercept against 2 caps and less) attempts to block.
> Can Arika mask the action ?
>
> My guess is "No", since David's intercept has been applied and could
> not have been if Arika were acting.
Correct.
> If I am wrong and she could, could she play it at superior to gain
> stealth ? Dimple needs stealth but Arika wouldn't.
>
>
> Similarly :
>
> Normal attempts a hunt.
> Selma (+1 intercept against Nosferatu) attempts to block.
> Even before she gains intercept, Aggrippina wants to play Mask (I
> guess she can).
Yes.
> Can she play it at superior to gain stealth ? Normal does not need
> stealth but Aggrippina would.
Yes.
Parallel to the reverse case (a minion with inherent +stealth cannot mask at
superior if the superior's stealth is not needed after considering the inherent
stealth).
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Alicia Barrows attempts a bleed action against my prey. My prey
attemps to block with Normal. Can Aristotle
de Laurent play SUPERIOR Mask of 1000k to take over that action? The
resulting bleed would then be at +2 stealth (+1 from Aristotle's
cardtext and +1 from Sup. Mask).
Vegas gNat
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What is the reasoning behind not being able to play the card at
superior? Stealth is needed at the time the card is played. To me,
not allowing play of the card at superior is like not allowing the
play of Lost in Crowds at superior because only +1 stealth is needed.
Vegas gNat
On 4 Sep, 23:39, tigernat1 <tigern...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 4, 1:56 pm, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote:
> > tigernat1 wrote:
> > > Alicia Barrows attempts a bleed action against my prey. My prey
> > > attemps to block with Normal. Can Aristotle
> > > de Laurent play SUPERIOR Mask of 1000k to take over that action? The
> > > resulting bleed would then be at +2 stealth (+1 from Aristotle's
> > > cardtext and +1 from Sup. Mask).
>
> > No, he cannot. He can play it at inferior, though.
>> What is the reasoning behind not being able to play the card at
> superior? Stealth is needed at the time the card is played. To me,
> not allowing play of the card at superior is like not allowing the
> play of Lost in Crowds at superior because only +1 stealth is needed.
Because if Aristotle is the acting minion (which he will be) the +1
stealth isn't needed.
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But he is not the acting minion untill after the card is played, at
the time the card is played the +1 stealth is still required, so the
card text of aristotle affects the play of cards in this action before
he plays them?
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That certainly seems to be the implication of the ruling. Going back
to LSJ's earlier post:
On 4 Sep, 18:19, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote:
> François wrote:
> > Normal attempts a hunt.
> > Selma (+1 intercept against Nosferatu) attempts to block.
> > Even before she gains intercept, Aggrippina wants to play Mask (I
> > guess she can).
>
> Yes.
>
> > Can she play it at superior to gain stealth ? Normal does not need
> > stealth but Aggrippina would.
>
> Yes.> Parallel to the reverse case (a minion with inherent +stealth cannot mask at
> superior if the superior's stealth is not needed after considering the inherent
> stealth).
So you could clarify this with the statement along the lines of:
"Mask's superior effect can (only) be played if the masking minion
would require stealth at this point in the action and irrespective of
whether or not the original minion would require stealth to continue
unblocked."
Which covers both of LSJ's above examples. Sorry if this posts twice,
I'm having trouble with the google interface.
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Key here is he *will* be, but at the time Mask of 1000k is played he
is NOT. Therefore playing the card at superior should be legal. I
see no reason to complicate matters with some wierd ruling. And LSJ
still has not given justification for his ruling. Aristotle's stealth
does not come into play until the Mask of 1000k resolves. At the time
of play, the stealth is needed. After Mask of 1000k resolves and
Aristotle has taken over the action, he is now the acting minion and
you apply his stealth.
Vegas gNat