Question about Out of the Frying Pan

I know this maybe stupid but, what about a clan like the Salubri where the clan itself is independent by default. Does this card make a !Salubri into a Salubri even though the clan it self is not Cam? I would assume this could make a non-Scarce normal Salubri? Card text: Out of the frying Pan Master. Trifle Choose a ready sabat vampire you control. That vampire becomes Camarilla. (His or her Clan is not affected.)

CARL BRAUN wrote: > I know this maybe stupid but, what about a clan like the Salubri where > the clan itself is independent by default. Does this card make a > !Salubri into a Salubri even though the clan it self is not Cam? I No. It doesn't change clan at all. > would assume this could make a non-Scarce normal Salubri? No. Clan Impersonation could do that, though. > Card text: > Out of the frying Pan > Master. Trifle > Choose a ready sabat vampire you control. That vampire becomes > Camarilla. (His or her Clan is not affected.) -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 14:34:46 -0400, LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote: >CARL BRAUN wrote: >> Does this card make a >> !Salubri into a Salubri even though the clan it self is not Cam? > >No. It doesn't change clan at all. Good old card text. Nothing beats card text. >> I would assume this could make a non-Scarce normal Salubri? > >No. Clan Impersonation could do that, though. It wouldn't actually make the Salubri **non-scarce**, though, would it? You only get that if you Embrace, or somehow create another vampire with a Salubri, I expect? Xian

On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 06:58:00 -0500, Xian <xi...@visi.nospam.com> wrote: >On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 14:34:46 -0400, LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> >wrote: >>> I would assume this could make a non-Scarce normal Salubri? >> >>No. Clan Impersonation could do that, though. > >It wouldn't actually make the Salubri **non-scarce**, though, would >it? You only get that if you Embrace, or somehow create another >vampire with a Salubri, I expect? Oh, whoops, I was looking at it the wrong way around. Never mind. Xian

Xian wrote: > LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote: >>CARL BRAUN wrote: >>>Does this card make a >>>!Salubri into a Salubri even though the clan it self is not Cam? >>>I would assume this could make a non-Scarce normal Salubri? >>No. Clan Impersonation could do that, though. > It wouldn't actually make the Salubri **non-scarce**, though, would > it? It would. A !Salubri who Clan Impersonates a Salubri would be a non-scarce normal Salubri. A Salubri who Clan Impersonates a !Salubri would be a scarce !Salubri (not a "non-scarce normal Salubri", which seems to be how you've interpreted the phrase). > You only get that if you Embrace, or somehow create another > vampire with a Salubri, I expect? Or Clan Impersonate to change clans to Salubri. [ quoted text not captured ]

Xian wrote: :: On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 14:34:46 -0400, LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> :: wrote: :: ::: CARL BRAUN wrote: :::: Does this card make a :::: !Salubri into a Salubri even though the clan it self is not Cam? ::: ::: No. It doesn't change clan at all. :: :: Good old card text. Nothing beats card text. Seeds of corruption does ;)