rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Dumb Circle Question (not mine)

4 messages from 4 participants · 10 January 2006
original thread on Google Groups

Jozxyqk

We had some visitors in town for VTES tonight, and they made an offhand comment kind of jokingly, but I can not find any ruling to contradict it: Is the Inner Circle a Circle? It shares the same card text area as the regular BB circles; the only difference is a period. "Camarilla Inner Circle:..." "Sabbat. Mexico City Circle:..." If two Inner Circle members Clan Impersonate to Blood Brother, and then join the Camarilla again (regaining the IC membership), and also gain access to Sanguinus (say, Etrius with an Infernal Familiar), can they share as part of the "inner" circle?

Chris Berger

[ quoted text not captured ] Lol, that's hysterical. I have a feeling the answer is going to be that "Inner Circle" is a specifically defined game term (as a title), and therefore does not indicate the "circle" to which a vampire belongs. Hopefully, I'm wrong, and LSJ will rule that it's possible, just for the sheer hilarity that could come from such a deck.

Fred Scott

"Jozxyqk" <jfeu...@eecs.tufts.edu> wrote in message news:E7qdnRq7Cbg7ql7e...@comcast.com... [ quoted text not captured ] You mean, is the Inner Circle a circle designation for purposes of Sanguinus? The relevant statement I can find in the rules is where "circle" is defined: "Circle: Each Blood Brother is identified with a particular circle. A vampire without a circle designation is his own circle." Since no Inner Circle members are innately Blood Brothers, I would reason that "Inner Circle" cannot be a circle designation as such. Therefore, even if they had Sanguinous, they are counted as their own circle. If the definition didn't specify _Blood Brothers_ being identified with a particular circle, you might have a better argument. (Albeit, I'll grant you the refutation is kind of shaky, too.) Fred

LSJ

Chris Berger wrote: > Jozxyqk wrote: > > Is the Inner Circle a Circle? It shares the same card text area as the > > regular [Blood Brother] circles; the only difference is a period. > > "Camarilla Inner Circle:..." > > "Sabbat. Mexico City Circle:..." > > If two Inner Circle members Clan Impersonate to Blood Brother, and then > > join the Camarilla again (regaining the IC membership), and also gain > > access to Sanguinus (say, Etrius with an Infernal Familiar), can they > > share as part of the "inner" circle? > > Lol, that's hysterical. I have a feeling the answer is going to be > that "Inner Circle" is a specifically defined game term (as a title), > and therefore does not indicate the "circle" to which a vampire > belongs. Hopefully, I'm wrong, and LSJ will rule that it's possible, > just for the sheer hilarity that could come from such a deck. You're not wrong, sorry.