From IRC: Contitioning + Foreshadowing Destruction combo

[18:26] <Jozxyqk> so .. Conditioning + SUP Foreshadowing does work, if the current target of the bleed has more than 9 pool? [18:26] <devilwithcape> josh- yes [18:26] <Jozxyqk> wow [18:26] <LSJ> sup FS isn't a modifier that increases the bleed when the target has 10 pool. [18:27] <Jozxyqk> for example it's legal for me to play it when my prey has 30 pool, and he bounces to his prey who has 6 [18:28] <LSJ> Yes. -- Damnans http://www.almadrava.net/damnans http://www.vtes.net http://es.groups.yahoo.com/group/vteshispania/ http://iuturna.sorcery.net (IRC channel: #vtes)

Damnans a écrit : > [18:26] <Jozxyqk> so .. Conditioning + SUP Foreshadowing does work, if > the current target of the bleed has more than 9 pool? > [18:26] <devilwithcape> josh- yes > [18:26] <Jozxyqk> wow > [18:26] <LSJ> sup FS isn't a modifier that increases the bleed when the > target has 10 pool. > [18:27] <Jozxyqk> for example it's legal for me to play it when my prey > has 30 pool, and he bounces to his prey who has 6 > [18:28] <LSJ> Yes. Sounds so counterintuitive :/

[ quoted text not captured ] That you can play a non-bleed-increasing modifier after Conditioning? Hmm. I'd have thought that it was intuitive that you could play, say, Lost in Crowds after Conditioning.

On Jan 8, 1:10 pm, reyda <true_re...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Sounds so counterintuitive :/ (I figure that the important part here is that Forshadowing at superior, when played as you bleed someone who has 10+ pool, doesn't increase the bleed. It is basically playing a card to cycle it for nothing, I'd assume. Which might have a dire consequence if you get bounced.) -Peter

Peter D Bakija <pd...@lightlink.com> wrote: > (I figure that the important part here is that Forshadowing at > superior, when played as you bleed someone who has 10+ pool, doesn't > increase the bleed. It is basically playing a card to cycle it for > nothing, I'd assume. Which might have a dire consequence if you get > bounced.) Or if they burn pool before the resolution of the action that brings them below 10. Playing DI or canceling True Love's Face, for example.

On 8 tammi, 21:56, Jozxyqk <jfeue...@eecs.tufts.edu> wrote: [ quoted text not captured ] Christopher Houghton has Aching Beauty, he bleeds with Legal Manipulation, modifies bleed with SUP Aire + SUP Foreshadowing and target of bleed is in 10 pool. He gets blocked, target is now in 9 pool due AB, plays SUP Form of Mist to continue action. He is now bleeding for 9... right?

[ quoted text not captured ] To be honest, if I was confronted with this situation in a tournament situation I would've ruled very differently. I would've said you can't play the Foreshadowing Destruction because it is an action modifier that further increases the bleed, even if that increase is only conditional. While, in effect, it might not actually increase the bleed amount, when it is played its effect is to attempt to increase the bleed amount, even if it fails in that attempt.