Daring the Dawn

In the superior version of Daring the Dawn, the "Damage not Preventable" is missing. Does this mean that the damage is preventable, or is the damage not preventable implied from the "as above"? Matt

[ quoted text not captured ] The latter. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

"Matt Latham" <mla...@diamondtoolmfg.com> a écrit dans le message news: 9hpt64$10g$1...@nntp2-cm.news.eni.net... [ quoted text not captured ] I think it's a simple typo. The damage is not preventable. i once made a deck using 8 Daring, 10 Force of Will and 10 blood tears of Kephren to make big suprise bleeds with harmless looking Ravnos, but a mate pointed that fact. An i'm now sure he's right.

[ quoted text not captured ] No typo. It really is "as above", as printed. [ quoted text not captured ]

>In the superior version of Daring the Dawn, the "Damage not Preventable" is >missing. Does this mean that the damage is preventable, or is the damage not >preventable implied from the "as above"? It's implied from the "as above." Similarly, for cards like Blood Fury and Soul Burn, the text stating the damage can't be prevented by Fortitude is relisted in the superior version, it's implied. But in any case, it's also moot. Since Blood Tears have been changed to only prevent in combat, to the best of my knowledge there is no way to prevent damage outside of combat. Halcyan 2

"Halcyan 2" <halc...@aol.com> > But in any case, it's also moot. Since Blood Tears have been changed to only > prevent in combat, to the best of my knowledge there is no way to prevent > damage outside of combat. I don't think so ! there is no errata, nor clarification on this card. you can prevent outside combat for the purpose of Shadow twin, Catatonic fear or Riposte. Also note that Blood tears can be used to *gain* two blood, why would you have to use this during combat ? reyda

[ quoted text not captured ] Card text (Final Nights) says that the prevention is "in combat". [ quoted text not captured ]

"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> > Card text (Final Nights) says that the prevention is "in combat". I didn't even looked at the final nights version, albeit it was in the precon i played =/ I just read the text on WW website. by the way if you have the patience to read the french FN report, you'll also see that a big vamp was banished by a younger one. too bad.

"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> > Card text (Final Nights) says that the prevention is "in combat". I didn't even looked at the final nights version, albeit it was in the precon i played =/ I just read the text on WW website. by the way if you have the patience to read the french FN report, you'll also see that a big vamp was banished by a younger one and no one noticed it. too bad.

"Reyda" <re...@noos.fr> wrote in message news:9hqufr$9e6$1...@neon.noos.net... [ quoted text not captured ] Blood tears was reworded for Final Nights so that you can only prevent damage during combat. You can gain blood at any time.

theventrue wrote: <Blood tears was reworded for Final Nights so that you <can only prevent <damage during combat. You can gain blood at any time. Will Blood Tears work outside of combat in tournament play before July 11th when the Final Nights cards become V:EKN tournament legal? thanks in advance, Jay

[ quoted text not captured ] As I've said, the changes do not become "active" in constructed deck tournaments until July 11. That includes this change. [ quoted text not captured ]