rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

(LSJ) Abactor questions

3 messages from 3 participants · 12 January 2010
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floppyzedolfin

Hello, 1 - Vampire plays Abactor, the action is successful. a) Can Freak Drive be played before the Blood Hunt referendum Abactor generates is called? b) Can Freak Drive be played after the Blood Hunt referendum Abactor generates is called (admitting the vampire survived the Blood Hunt, of course) ? I think they are both OK - a) because of the similarity with Voter Captivation's timing window; b) given Truth of a Thousand Lies' cardtext. = 2 - Can Lay Low be played if the Blood Hunt generated by Abactor would burn the acting vampire? I think so, though the "independent of the action" confuses me. Thanks. == Abactor Cardtype: Action +1 stealth hunt action. Gain 5 blood. After successful resolution, a referendum is called to call a blood hunt on this vampire (independent of the action, just as if he or she had committed diablerie). Freak Drive Cardtype: Action Modifier Cost: 1 blood Discipline: Fortitude [for] Only usable at the end of a successful action (after resolving the action). This vampire untaps. [FOR] As above, but usable even if the action is blocked (play after combat, if any). Lay Low Cardtype: Action Modifier/Combat Cost: 1 blood Requires an anarch. Only usable when a blood hunt referendum passes and would burn this anarch. Move this anarch to the uncontrolled region (breaking any temporary control effects). Any cards and counters on this vampire remain with him or her (but are out of play as long as the vampire remains uncontrolled).

LSJ

On Jan 12, 10:54 am, floppyzedolfin <floppyzedol...@gmail.com> wrote: > 1 - Vampire plays Abactor, the action is successful. > a) Can Freak Drive be played before the Blood Hunt referendum Abactor > generates is called? No. The Blood Hunt generated by Abactor is handled like the Blood Hunt generated by a diablerie. > b) Can Freak Drive be played after the Blood Hunt referendum Abactor > generates is called (admitting the vampire survived the Blood Hunt, of > course) ? Yes. > I think they are both OK - a) because of the similarity with Voter > Captivation's timing window; b) given Truth of a Thousand Lies' > cardtext. > > = > > 2 - Can Lay Low be played if the Blood Hunt generated by Abactor would > burn the acting vampire? Yes. > I think so, though the "independent of the action" confuses me. FWIW, a regular blood hunt referendum is also conducted "independent of the action". [ quoted text not captured ]

Juggernaut1981

[ quoted text not captured ] "Independent of the Action" basically is isolating the Blood Hunt Referendum from being an action or part of an action. It is a "thing which just happens" rather than the result of an action to create a referendum.