First strike question

Can a steal or destroy weapon with first strike card be dodged? Tonight I blocked a vampire with one of my minions that had superior animalism. He had a Sengir Dagger and I wanted to play Canine Horde superior form. He as the acting vampire played dodge with an additional strike and I played the Canine Horde. We have always resolved first strikes first but I think the official ruling is that first strikes can be dodged, or even combat ends. Also, forgetting the above senario, if you are the reacting vampire playing any first strike card, are you supposed to declare your strike before the acting vampire does? Thanks again

In article <366E4A64...@ix.netcom.com>, Bryan Nelson <bry...@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > Can a steal or destroy weapon with first strike card be dodged? > Tonight I blocked a vampire with one of my minions that had superior > animalism. He had a Sengir Dagger and I wanted to play Canine Horde > superior form. He as the acting vampire played dodge with an additional > strike and I played the Canine Horde. We have always resolved first > strikes first but I think the official ruling is that first strikes can > be dodged, or even combat ends. You are pretty much correct. Dodge negates the effects of the opposing minion's strike on your *minion* (I believe, though IANALSJ, that if the opposing minion is applying damage to a retainer -- using ranged damage at long range -- your dodge does nothing to help out your retainer.) And no, dodge does *not* cancel Strike: Combat Ends. > Also, forgetting the above senario, if you are the reacting vampire > playing any first strike card, are you supposed to declare your strike > before the acting vampire does? Thanks again This is a pretty good question. I *think* that the reacting vampire still declares second...just simply has the benefit of having his strike resolve first. Which *can* make the Assamites nasty with first strike aggravated... Xian "they look at you funny when you attack things like a hungry mountain lion on crack" --greensea -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own

xi...@waste.org (Xian) wrote: > Bryan Nelson <bry...@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > Can a steal or destroy weapon with first strike card be dodged? > > Tonight I blocked a vampire with one of my minions that had superior > > animalism. He had a Sengir Dagger and I wanted to play Canine Horde > > superior form. He as the acting vampire played dodge with an additional > > strike and I played the Canine Horde. We have always resolved first > > strikes first but I think the official ruling is that first strikes can > > be dodged, or even combat ends. > > You are pretty much correct. Dodge negates the effects of the opposing > minion's strike on your *minion* (I believe, though IANALSJ, that if the > opposing minion is applying damage to a retainer -- using ranged damage at > long range -- your dodge does nothing to help out your retainer.) Correct. Dodge protects the dodging minion and any non-Retainer cards on the dodging minion from the effects of the opposing minion's strike. > And no, > dodge does *not* cancel Strike: Combat Ends. But combat ends does pre-empt strikes with First Strike, which is where Bryan was heading, I think. > > Also, forgetting the above senario, if you are the reacting vampire > > playing any first strike card, are you supposed to declare your strike > > before the acting vampire does? Thanks again > > This is a pretty good question. I *think* that the reacting vampire still > declares second...just simply has the benefit of having his strike resolve > first. Correct. The Acting minion always declares his strike first. -- L. Scott Johnson (vte...@wizards.com) VTES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and DCI (tournament) rules: http://www.wizards.com/VTES/VTES_Rules.html [ quoted text not captured ]