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Rules question: stealing blood

4 messages from 3 participants · 11 November 1996
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Justin Fang

If a vampire is both having its blood stolen and receiving damage form another source (say, from using a zip gun), which effect happens first? Example: Thomas Thorne, with 2 blood and a Murder of Crows, uses Theft of Vitae on Sarah Cobbler, with 1 blood, who responds with Theft of Vitae against Thomas. What happens? -- Justin Fang (jus...@ugcs.caltech.edu) This space intentionally left blank.

L. Scott Johnson

jus...@ugcs.caltech.edu (Justin Fang) writes: >If a vampire is both having its blood stolen and receiving damage form >another source (say, from using a zip gun), which effect happens first? >Example: Thomas Thorne, with 2 blood and a Murder of Crows, uses Theft of >Vitae on Sarah Cobbler, with 1 blood, who responds with Theft of Vitae >against Thomas. What happens? OK, I'm getting tired of not answering questions (I think that point of Mr. Wilkie's argument has been proven false over the past fortnight), so allow me to field this one (since no one from WotC will): --- Since none of the strikes are done at first strike (nor are they Dodges or S:CE), they all resolve simultaneously. 1) Thomas steals two blood from Sarah, who only has one. Move that one from Sarah to Thomas. 1) Also, Thomas' Crows deal 1 damage to Sarah (she now has one damage). 1) Also, Sarah steals two from Thomas, who has two. Move those two from Thomas to Sarah. So, after this step, Thomas has one blood, Sarah has two. Also, Sarah has one point of damage to heal. --- Then, any damage dealt is healed: 2) Sarah burns one blood to heal the damage from the Crows. Now Sarah has one blood. --- So, this round ends with both vampires ready, and both having one blood. For a complete breakdown of timing issues such as this, see my Complete Rules Outline, available via Web (http://Rulemonger.Home.ML.Org), or available from this newsgroup (posted on the first of every month) - see www.dejanews.com for archives of this newsgroup. -- L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.sc.edu) | Only XT users know that http://www.math.sc.edu/cgi-bin/sjohnson/home | Jan 1, 1980 was a Tuesday. Graphics Specialist and V:tES Rulemonger. |

Justin Fang

In article <5679kg$2...@redwood.cs.sc.edu>, L. Scott Johnson <sjoh...@math.scarolina.edu> wrote: >jus...@ugcs.caltech.edu (Justin Fang) writes: >>Example: Thomas Thorne, with 2 blood and a Murder of Crows, uses Theft of >>Vitae on Sarah Cobbler, with 1 blood, who responds with Theft of Vitae >>against Thomas. What happens? [...] >So, this round ends with both vampires ready, and both having one blood. Thanks. >For a complete breakdown of timing issues such as this, see my Complete >Rules Outline, available via Web (http://Rulemonger.Home.ML.Org), or >available from this newsgroup (posted on the first of every month) - see >www.dejanews.com for archives of this newsgroup. Um, when I checked your web site, both mirrors gave me, "Error: Can't find rulesoutline.html". I was able to find a copy elsewhere, but you might want to fix this. [ quoted text not captured ]

ALEX HARMON

Justin Fang (jus...@ugcs.caltech.edu) wrote: : If a vampire is both having its blood stolen and receiving damage form : another source (say, from using a zip gun), which effect happens first? : Example: Thomas Thorne, with 2 blood and a Murder of Crows, uses Theft of : Vitae on Sarah Cobbler, with 1 blood, who responds with Theft of Vitae : against Thomas. What happens? Well, I am no rulemonger, but this has come up before with me. I would say that Thomas steals 1 blood and deals 1 damage via crows WHILE Sarah steals his 2 life. Sarah goes to torpor with 2 blood on her while Thomas is still kicking with 1 blood on him. Sarah lost her 1 blood which reduced her to 0 and then the crows knocked her to torpor. She however stole two life but this doesnt prevent her from going to torpor. Hopefully I haven't screwed this up but I am positive this is what happens. Alex