rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Is there still a market?

16 messages from 9 participants · 28 August 1999 – 02 September 1999
original thread on Google Groups

Jennifer and Michael Johnston

I purchased many boxes of Jyhad years back and still have all my cards from the original edition(thousands of cards). Is there still a market to sell these cards? If so, would someone email dart...@earthlink.net with information on how I might sell the cards. Thanks, MHJ

Nate Williams

Tim wrote: > > I have the exact same question! My roommate moved, and left his > complete set of Jyhad behind. (No VTES, just the original Jyhad.) I > was planning on giving them to a friend who still plays, but if there's > a market, I'd prefer to sell them. I consider a complete set 4 of > everything, and 1 of each card that is limited to 1 in a deck. I > haven't checked to make sure his set is complete, but I'm certain it's > very close to it. (He prided himself on having complete MAGIC sets when > that was fiscally possible. ;) ) > > Please email me at tim...@timbur.net > > In article <7q8j4e$dlb$1...@ash.prod.itd.earthlink.net>, [ quoted text not captured ] > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Share what you know. Learn what you don't. Jyhad has no card limits like Magic. A comlete set is generally one of each card. Try eBay maybe. If you give a comprehensive list of the cards someone is bound to buy them. By the way, don't those cards belong to your roommate, or did he leave them on purpose? Nate

carl.pi...@philips.com

Hi fellow Methuselahs, Let me welcome the new VEKN Prince of Milwaukee in our midst, Ed Gross (ed...@tjhale.com) Welcome aboard Ed, and let the Jyhad rage in Milwaukee! Carl (VEKN membership director) [ quoted text not captured ]

The Lasombra

In article <7qdqda$h9n$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, Tim <tim...@timbur.net> wrote: >Is there still a market to sell these (Jyhad only) cards? No. You can buy unopened boxes of Jyhad boosters for less than $15 a box. Specific individuals might be interested in completing collections or helping those in their area get started, but you will not get a lot of money back for the cards that you have. -There are NO cards that are restricted to 1 or any other type of card limit in Jyhad. (in response to Tim's description of what he considers a "complete" set that I snipped.) Carpe Noctem. Lasombra http://members.tripod.com/~Lasombra/cardtrader.html [ quoted text not captured ]

Nate Williams

The Lasombra wrote: > > In article <7qdqda$h9n$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, > Tim <tim...@timbur.net> wrote: > >Is there still a market to sell these (Jyhad only) cards? > > No. > Really? Just because they're Jyhad-backed instead of V:tES? I always thought it was pretty weak that WotC changed the name of the game (due to the associations of the word "Jyhad" to contemporary Middle-East conflicts, right?), and my friends that play and I personally haven't bought any of the V:tES-backed basic set cards because of this. I did notice that on your website you say you don't accept Jyhad-backed cards, but I never realized that their value in general suffers because of it. I guess M:tG Alpha edition cards are worth less because they aren't tournament legal (the corners are cut differently). Are Jyhad-backed cards not tournament legal? > You can buy unopened boxes of Jyhad boosters for less > than $15 a box. What do V:teS boxes sell for on average? NaTe

Nate Williams

Richard Zopf wrote: > > The Lasombra wrote in message <7qg53q$87b$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>... > >Yes, they are legal, and over-abundant. That is why > >there is no secondary card market for Jyhad backed cards. > > > In case Lasombra didn't stress it enough, its not that the card backs > themeslves make them less desirable, but that they printed as much Jyhad as > they did 3rd Ed. M:tG (!?!?) Wow! That _was_ something of a mistake, seeing as M:tG was already becoming a big thing and Jyhad was brand new. With the difference in demand, a third edition Magic pack (15 cards) sells for almost as much as a Jyhad BOX! There is an incredible number of them floating > around (enough to put several major distributors out of business, part of > the root of our problem getting more support/expansions made for the > game...) Once supply evens out with demand, a box of Jyhad might rise > significantly inh price, but I have no idea when that may end up happening. > > Regards, > R. David Zopf > Atom Weaver (& V:EKN Prince of Charlotte, NC) NaTe

carl.pi...@philips.com

Hi fellow Methuselahs, Let me welcome the new VEKN Prince of Quebec in our midst, Rafid Armani (arm...@mediom.qc.ca) Welcome aboard Rafid, and let the Jyhad rage in Quebec! Carl (VEKN membership director) [ quoted text not captured ]

The Lasombra

In article <37CA15...@hotmail.com>, nath...@hotmail.com wrote: > The Lasombra wrote: > > > > In article <7qdqda$h9n$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, > > Tim <tim...@timbur.net> wrote: > > >Is there still a market to sell these (Jyhad only) cards? > > > > No. > > > > Really? Just because they're Jyhad-backed instead of V:tES? Yes. There has always been a surplus of Jyhad-backed cards. You have been able to buy boxes of Jyhad for 10-15 dollars a box for the last 2+ years. VTES prices have remained stable at 50-60 dollars per box. Sabbat prices have risen back up to 75-85 dollars per box. > Are Jyhad-backed cards not tournament legal? Yes, they are legal, and over-abundant. That is why there is no secondary card market for Jyhad backed cards. Carpe Noctem. Lasombra http://members.tripod.com/~Lasombra [ quoted text not captured ]

LSJ

Nate Williams wrote: > The Lasombra wrote: > > Tim <tim...@timbur.net> wrote: > > >Is there still a market to sell these (Jyhad only) cards? > > No. > Really? Just because they're Jyhad-backed instead of V:tES? I always > thought it was pretty weak that WotC changed the name of the game (due > to the associations of the word "Jyhad" to contemporary Middle-East > conflicts, right?), Because the name wasn't descriptive enough, according to WotC. People/players would see 'Jyhad' and not immediately think "Oh, a game about vampires". > and my friends that play and I personally haven't > bought any of the V:tES-backed basic set cards because of this. I did > notice that on your website you say you don't accept Jyhad-backed cards, > but I never realized that their value in general suffers because of it. > I guess M:tG Alpha edition cards are worth less because they aren't > tournament legal (the corners are cut differently). Are Jyhad-backed > cards not tournament legal? They are tournament legal [DCI rules 2.1.1] -- LSJ (vte...@wizards.com) V:TES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.wizards.com/VTES/rules.asp

Richard Zopf

The Lasombra wrote in message <7qg53q$87b$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>... >Yes, they are legal, and over-abundant. That is why >there is no secondary card market for Jyhad backed cards. > In case Lasombra didn't stress it enough, its not that the card backs themeslves make them less desirable, but that they printed as much Jyhad as they did 3rd Ed. M:tG (!?!?) There is an incredible number of them floating [ quoted text not captured ]

Frederick Scott

(TO REPLY VIA E-MAIL, STRIP 'XYXYX' FROM THE ADDRESS) LSJ <vte...@wizards.com> writes: >Nate Williams wrote: >> The Lasombra wrote: >> > Tim <tim...@timbur.net> wrote: >> > >Is there still a market to sell these (Jyhad only) cards? >> > No. >> Really? Just because they're Jyhad-backed instead of V:tES? I always >> thought it was pretty weak that WotC changed the name of the game (due >> to the associations of the word "Jyhad" to contemporary Middle-East >> conflicts, right?), > >Because the name wasn't descriptive enough, according to WotC. >People/players would see 'Jyhad' and not immediately think "Oh, a >game about vampires". WotC said that publicly but it was due at least in part to the concern about offending Middle-Eastern cultures. Kathy Ice posted a long letter from Peter Adkison in the newsgroups about it. I'm amazed you don't remember that. Fred

Frederick Scott

(TO REPLY VIA E-MAIL, STRIP 'XYXYX' FROM THE ADDRESS) "Richard Zopf" <guenh...@mindspring.com> writes: >The Lasombra wrote in message <7qg53q$87b$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>... >>Yes, they are legal, and over-abundant. That is why >>there is no secondary card market for Jyhad backed cards. >> >In case Lasombra didn't stress it enough, its not that the card backs >themeslves make them less desirable, but that they printed as much Jyhad as >they did 3rd Ed. M:tG (!?!?) I disagree. Having card backs that don't match the card backs printed on all the expansions is certainly a disadvantage for them, at least in some peoples' eyes. How much of a disadvantage is debatable. (And not to dispute your point about the Jyhad printing being terrifically large and its inevitable effect on prices.) Fred

LSJ

Frederick Scott wrote: > > (TO REPLY VIA E-MAIL, STRIP 'XYXYX' FROM THE ADDRESS) > [ quoted text not captured ] I remember that. The official reason for the name change remains the "brand identification" thing, though. [ quoted text not captured ]

Richard Zopf

Frederick Scott wrote in message <7qh6kf$c...@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com>... >(TO REPLY VIA E-MAIL, STRIP 'XYXYX' FROM THE ADDRESS) > >"Richard Zopf" <guenh...@mindspring.com> writes: >>In case Lasombra didn't stress it enough, its not that the card backs >>themeslves make them less desirable, but that they printed as much Jyhad as >>they did 3rd Ed. M:tG (!?!?) > >I disagree. Having card backs that don't match the card backs printed on >all the expansions is certainly a disadvantage for them, at least in some >peoples' eyes. How much of a disadvantage is debatable. (And not to dispute >your point about the Jyhad printing being terrifically large and its >inevitable effect on prices.) > Yes, (here comes the debateable part ;-) but that effect is minimized nicely by game mechanics. With the high rate of card flow inherent to the "play one card, and draw to replace immediately" mechanic of V:tES, knowing what the next card on the top of yoru deck is has very infrequent value within the game, thus minimizing "marked deck" problems (if that's what you were getting at). [ quoted text not captured ]

Mikko Saari

> Because the name wasn't descriptive enough, according to WotC. > People/players would see 'Jyhad' and not immediately think "Oh, a > game about vampires". And, of course, one shouldn't forget other reasons as well. Come on, could you really think about White Wolf -related game which had a name which wasn't called "Something: The Something"... ...still waiting for Mermaid: The De-hydration... -- -- for more info msaari finger msa...@tukki.jyu.fi @jyu.fi

Tim

He said I could do what I wanted with them. He had tried to sell them and his Star Trek CC cards a few years ago, but just sold the rarer Trek cards. I'll try E-Bay, can't hust, I guess! In article <37C96E...@hotmail.com>, nath...@hotmail.com wrote: > Tim wrote: > > > > I have the exact same question! My roommate moved, and left his > > complete set of Jyhad behind. (No VTES, just the original Jyhad.) I > > was planning on giving them to a friend who still plays, but if there's > > a market, I'd prefer to sell them. I consider a complete set 4 of > > everything, and 1 of each card that is limited to 1 in a deck. I > > haven't checked to make sure his set is complete, but I'm certain it's > > very close to it. (He prided himself on having complete MAGIC sets when > > that was fiscally possible. ;) ) > > > > Please email me at tim...@timbur.net > > > > In article <7q8j4e$dlb$1...@ash.prod.itd.earthlink.net>, > > "Jennifer and Michael Johnston" <dart...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > I purchased many boxes of Jyhad years back and still have all my cards > > from > > > the original edition(thousands of cards). Is there still a market to > > sell > > > these cards? If so, would someone email dart...@earthlink.net with > > > information on how I might sell the cards. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > MHJ > > > > > > > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > Share what you know. Learn what you don't. > > Jyhad has no card limits like Magic. A comlete set is generally one of > each card. Try eBay maybe. If you give a comprehensive list of the > cards someone is bound to buy them. By the way, don't those cards > belong to your roommate, or did he leave them on purpose? > > Nate > [ quoted text not captured ]