Question on Madness Network

Hi, I would like to know if a Malkavian using the effect of the Madness Network during the turn of another Methuselah can play out-of-turn cards (like Röshtreck or Obedience if he enters combat, or Direct Intervention to cancel intercept, etc...) ? Or, if the action is not blocked, can another Vampire of the acting Methuselah play reaction cards (like Surprise Influence in a referendum). If yes, can the acting minion play action modifier (like Bewitching Oration in a referendum) or play himself reaction cards ? And last, can a tapped Malkavian can untap with a Second Tradition to make an action ? As you can see, the possibilities of this card are not clear for us, and this can represent some great combos... LSJ, if you can answer this, I will be very grateful, Thank you very much for your time, Rafid Armani

"Rafid Armani" <ra...@mediom.qc.ca> wrote: > I would like to know if a Malkavian using the effect of the Madness > Network during the turn of another Methuselah can play out-of-turn > [master] cards?... Or, if the action is not blocked, can another > Vampire of the acting Methuselah play reaction cards? These questions were already brought up this week. The controller of the Malkavian making use of the Madness Network may play Out of Turn Master Cards but may not play reaction cards. > And last, can a tapped Malkavian can untap with a Second Tradition > to make an action? Only if the 2nd Tradition was prior to attempt to block an action and fail. In the NJL and in the VEKN (AIUI), to use the 2nd Tradition you _must_ be using it in conjuction with a legitimate attempt to block. The only difference in the card, to my knowledge, is that in NJL the vampire using it _must_ be tapped, whereas in VEKN the vampire _may_ be tapped. Noal McDonald The Bluebird of Happiness of Farmington Hills, MI National Jyhad League Rules Team Member -- "I don't think that Witchcraft is a real religion." "There ought to be limits to freedom." --George W. Bush Don't vote for a son of a Bush. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

Rafid Armani wrote: > I would like to know if a Malkavian using the effect of the Madness Network > during the turn of another Methuselah can play out-of-turn cards (like > Röshtreck or Obedience if he enters combat, or Direct Intervention to cancel > intercept, etc...) ? Malkavians (and minion vampires in general) cannot play Master cards at all. Only Methuselahs can play master cards, and they can play out-of-turn masters only "during another player's turn" [1.6.2.3] Obedience is not an out-of-turn card, it is a reaction card. Your minions cannot play reaction cards on an action taken by one of your minions. [1.6.3.5] > Or, if the action is not blocked, can another Vampire > of the acting Methuselah play reaction cards (like Surprise Influence in a > referendum). No. [1.6.3.5] > If yes, can the acting minion play action modifier (like > Bewitching Oration in a referendum) or play himself reaction cards ? And The acting minion can play action modifiers. [1.6.3.2] > last, can a tapped Malkavian can untap with a Second Tradition to make an > action ? No. Although he could untap with 2nd tradition in an attempt to block somone else's action and, if he fails to block (e.g., the acting minion gets +3 stealth), he'll remain untapped and could therefore take an action at the end of a player's minion phase. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.geocities.com/vtesrep

On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, LSJ wrote: > No. Although he could untap with 2nd tradition in an attempt to block > somone else's action and, if he fails to block (e.g., the acting > minion gets +3 stealth) Are tapped princes who are unable to attempt to block (due to an already played Seduction, say) also unable to play 2nd Tradition?

[ quoted text not captured ] Yes. If you can't block, you can't play 2nd Tradition. [ quoted text not captured ]