Imperator rules clarification - Hand size and discarding

From the Imperator Storyline pdf: 2. The Imperator deck's hand of cards is always face-up. Whenever the Imperator deck's hand has fewer than 3 cards, it is replenished from the Imperator deck's library. Cards burned from the Imperator deck are placed in the Imperator deck's ash heap. If a card from the Imperator deck is sent to any hand, ash heap, or library, it always goes to the Imperator hand, ash heap, or library. 5. The Imperator hand size is always 3 and cannot be changed (by Jan Pieterzoon or Aristotle de Laurent, for example). Cards played from the Imperator hand are always replaced, even under Blood Weakens or when played by Nedal. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What happens if a minion plays a political action card from the imperator deck, and the resulting referendum is canceled via delaying tactics? As per 2., the political action card should go back to the imperators hand. As per 5, "the Imperator" now needs to discard a card since he is above his hand size, assuming the political card gets replaced in the same fashion as for a "normal player". The question now is, who decides which card the Imperator discards? Is it the methuselah playing the political action, since he is the first in sequence, or is it the methuselah playing the delaying tactics, since it is an effect of his card, or something else? Delaying Tactics: Only usable during a referendum. The referendum is canceled. Untap the acting vampire. The controller of the acting vampire takes the political action card (if any) back into his or her hand (and discards down to his or her hand size), and his or her vampires cannot attempt the same political action this turn.

most likely the acting methuselah.

Oortje wrote: > most likely the acting methuselah. a reply without context is like a preposition without

On Apr 22, 3:50 am, chromeboy <houseofbull...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > The question now is, who decides which card the Imperator discards? Is > it the methuselah playing the > political action, since he is the first in sequence, or is it the > methuselah playing the delaying tactics, since > it is an effect of his card, or something else? > If I were making the rules, my answer would be that cards that go back to the Imperator hand do not require a discard, and it would just stay at 4 cards until a card is played, though cards are only replaced when the Imperator hand has less than 3 cards in it. However, even though that's how *I* would do it, I don't think that's the correct answer. I suspect that the methuselah whose hand the card would have otherwise gone to is the one that decides what to discard. I.e. with DT, it's the acting methuselah...

On Apr 22, 4:50 am, chromeboy <houseofbull...@hotmail.com> wrote: > What happens if a minion plays a political action card from the > imperator deck, and the resulting referendum > is canceled via delaying tactics? The canceled political action card is returned to the imperator hand. The acting methuselah chooses which of the imperator cards is discarded. -Ben Swainbank V:tes Storyline Coordinator http://www.vtesstorylines.com/

> Oortje wrote: > most likely the acting methuselah. >LSJ >a reply without context is like a preposition without My shortness in typing is compensated by the my excess of talking. Lucky for you I dont own a microphone :-) Oortje