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[LSJ] Catatonic Fear

8 messages from 5 participants · 13 December 2000 – 15 December 2000
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mr_b...@my-deja.com

1/ Can Warghoul prevent the damage from Catatonic Fear? 2/ Vampire A (superior presence) is in combat with vampire B (superior auspex). First round: Vampire A plays Catatonic Fear at superior; vampire B plays Telepathic Tracking, another round starts, ( I think damage from CF is not dealt yet). Second Round: Vamp A plays another Catatonic Fear, combat ends. Does Vampire B take 2 damage? Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/

LSJ

mr_b...@my-deja.com wrote: > > 1/ Can Warghoul prevent the damage from Catatonic Fear? Not with her special, since the special specifies "each round" and Catatonic Fear's damage is not done during a round. > 2/ Vampire A (superior presence) is in combat with vampire B (superior > auspex). > First round: Vampire A plays Catatonic Fear at superior; vampire B > plays Telepathic Tracking, another round starts, ( I think damage from > CF is not dealt yet). > Second Round: Vamp A plays another Catatonic Fear, combat ends. > Does Vampire B take 2 damage? No. Recent ruling is that the "combat continues" effect causes the pending "1 damage" effect to be lost. Vampire B takes 1 damage (from the uninterrupted Catatonic Fear). -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

Halcyan 2

>> 1/ Can Warghoul prevent the damage from Catatonic Fear? > >Not with her special, since the special specifies "each round" and >Catatonic Fear's damage is not done during a round. Nephandus wouldn't be able to avoid this as well right, since his ability is "during combat" and Catatonic works after? Speaking of Nephandus, does the -1 damage part count as preventing damage? Does this work on damage that is unpreventable? Halcyan 2

cantila

In article <20001214181831...@ng-cs1.aol.com>, halc...@aol.com (Halcyan 2) wrote: > >> 1/ Can Warghoul prevent the damage from Catatonic Fear? > > > >Not with her special, since the special specifies "each round" and > >Catatonic Fear's damage is not done during a round. > > Nephandus wouldn't be able to avoid this as well right, nope since his ability is > "during combat" and Catatonic works after? Speaking of Nephandus, does the -1 > damage part count as preventing damage? no, more like reduce Does this work on damage that is > unpreventable? works fine, play and see urself ;) [ quoted text not captured ]

Halcyan 2

> since his ability is >> "during combat" and Catatonic works after? Speaking of Nephandus, >does the -1 >> damage part count as preventing damage? > >no, more like reduce That's what I thought but I think it's important to make sure we don't have too many terms out there. So there's preventing (Flak Jacket), reducing (Nephandus), and also changing type (Skin of Night). One of the things that made Magic such a headache is that you have all these cards that say cannot be prevented. But you can still reduce or redirect it. Have a card that can't be prevented AND can't be redirected? Use Reverse Polarity or Reverse Damage. Eventually there were so many verbs that you could do with damage that it became quite a hassle. Hope that situation never happens to VTES. Halcyan 2

Pat Ricochet

>> since his ability is >>> "during combat" and Catatonic works after? Speaking of Nephandus, >> does the -1 >>> damage part count as preventing damage? >> >> no, more like reduce > > That's what I thought but I think it's important to make sure we don't have > too > many terms out there. > > So there's preventing (Flak Jacket), reducing (Nephandus), and also changing > type (Skin of Night). I'm sure you don't want to hear this, but you forgot "immune" (text of Ambrosius, the Ferryman). > One of the things that made Magic such a headache is that you have all these > cards that say cannot be prevented. But you can still reduce or redirect it. > Have a card that can't be prevented AND can't be redirected? Use Reverse > Polarity or Reverse Damage. Eventually there were so many verbs that you could > do with damage that it became quite a hassle. Hope that situation never > happens > to VTES. I think reduce, prevent, immune and changed/treated (Heart of Darkness/Skin of Night) are most of it. Any more? -- Pat Ricochet Soul Jar'rn Fool of Atlanta

cantila

In article <B65F27C1.1672%sp...@socrates.gatech.edu>, [ quoted text not captured ] And on the damage side we have damage, steal blood, burn blood... [ quoted text not captured ]

Pat Ricochet

[ quoted text not captured ] And don't forget that technically it's "burning blood" to "heal damage." Oh, and "wounded," too, for all that agg difficulty. Are we already worse than M:tCH on this? [ quoted text not captured ]