Dear LSJ,
I need your official answers to the followings:
1. My vampire has no blood, so she hunts. Someone blocks the action.
I play Change of Target. My vampire untaps. Must she hunt again, or
not?
2. A Methusaleah declares a blocking minion, but the opponent increases
its
stealth above the blocking minions intercept. May a Mathusaleah
choose an
other blocking minion, or the action succeeds?
3. There is a combat between the acting and opposing minion. In the
damage
resolution phase the opposing minion loses its last blood (so she
has now 0).
The acting prevents all damage, and plays Pulled Fangs. The opposing
minion
burns or not?
4. The superior version of Cloak The Gathering can be played by a tapped
vampir?
5. If a camarilla vampire calls a Praxis seizure, can sabbat vampires
cast a vote?
Thank you in advance,
G
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In article <34E5A445...@mail.datanet.hu>, Greg Hoppan
<al...@mail.datanet.hu> writes
>Dear LSJ,
>
>I need your official answers to the followings:
>
>1. My vampire has no blood, so she hunts. Someone blocks the action.
> I play Change of Target. My vampire untaps. Must she hunt again, or
>not?
>
No. There are a couple of reasons for it.
1) A vampire who has no blood on them HAS to hunt - as you seem to
already know.
2) Change of Target says, on the card text, that if that minion takes an
action again that turn, it cannot be the same action. Right? (Checking
the card text - it's possible I'm wrong because I'm using the card text
text file from Wizards which is sometimes wrong - I'll just get my copy
of the card). Yeah, that's right.
So what happens? I'm untapped and HAVE to hunt but I'm bound, by Change
of Target, to not hunt again.
Well, in this situation there is a standing rule which says that if you
HAVE to do something which you are forbidden to do, you do nothing.
>2. A Methusaleah declares a blocking minion, but the opponent increases
>its
> stealth above the blocking minions intercept. May a Mathusaleah
>choose an
> other blocking minion, or the action succeeds?
Yes, the same Methuselah may choose a different blocker. Let's say the
following happens:
You have Sheldon, Lord of the Clog out and I have two vampires -
Giuiliano Vincenzi (who has fortitude) and Dieter Kleist (who has
auspex). Sheldon decides that he'll bleed me. For some reason, I
decide that I'd like to block with Giuliano (stupidly spelt 2 capacity
Gangrel). Maybe the fact that he's got Fortitude means that I can
prevent damage from Sheldon, most likely. Sheldon was pretty clever
though. His methuselah plays a Swallowed by the Night for +1 stealth
(not a maneuver as we are not in combat yet). "Oh no," says I,
"Giuliano has no intercept at all. What shall I do?" Well because I
*can* still block with Dieter, Dieter decides that he'll play an
Enhanced Senses that I have in my hand to get +1 intercept. And the
entire thing can go on and on - if I found I couldn't block with Dieter
but drew a card which would let a third vampire of mine block, then that
would work as well cos I could still block with them.
>
>3. There is a combat between the acting and opposing minion. In the
>damage
> resolution phase the opposing minion loses its last blood (so she
>has now 0).
> The acting prevents all damage, and plays Pulled Fangs. The opposing
>minion
> burns or not?
>
Unfortunately, yes. Pulled Fangs is completely legal here because the
acting minion inflicted more damage (1) to the opposing minion than the
opposing minion did to him (0 - because it was prevented). So we can
play Pulled Fangs here.
Now, Pulled Fangs deals 1 aggravated damage. To take a slightly
different tack, what happens if Basilia hits you for one hand damage -
which is aggravated because of her special ability - and you have no
blood. Well, you have no blood when you take aggravated damage and so
are burned. That's right there in the rules.
So, Pulled Fangs also does 1 aggravated damage. So, the opposing minion
is burned.
Now, a lot of people disagree with this. When Vampire: The Eternal
Struggle was still only Jyhad, aggravated damage worked slightly
differently (I won't bore you with how) and Pulled Fangs couldn't burn a
minion. It would only put you into torpor. So people think that it
over-powered it in V:TES so they say, as a house rule, that Pulled Fangs
won't burn vampires. Which is alright for a house rule BUT if you play
in an official tournament, that won't apply.
>4. The superior version of Cloak The Gathering can be played by a tapped
>vampir?
>
Yes. There are no rules which state a minion has to be untapped to play
action modifiers. Indeed, because a vampire is tapped when they attempt
an action, they normally are tapped when they play action modifiers
(sorry, LSJ, if that sounds like an exact quote of something you said
the other day).
>5. If a camarilla vampire calls a Praxis seizure, can sabbat vampires
>cast a vote?
>
Yes, as odd as it seems.
On all votes, anybody can vote. This includes Camarilla, Sabbat and
Independent (say, Thetmes with 2 votes or the high capacity Giovanni
whose name eludes me).
However, there are a couple of exceptions but these only occur because
of card text. A couple of the Sabbat votes say that Camarilla vampires
can't vote and the Camarilla can get their own back with Closed Session.
These are the only ways to stop people voting simply because of their
sect.
--
James Coupe (remove your inhibitions to reply)
If I jumped I should not see the stones rise up to meet me, the fog would hide
them from me. The pain would be sharp and sudden as she said. The fall would
break my neck. It would not be slow, like drowning. It would soon be over.
>
>1. My vampire has no blood, so she hunts. Someone blocks the action.
> I play Change of Target. My vampire untaps. Must she hunt again, or
>not?
Your vampire can do nothing untill she hunts. If she is prohibited from
hunting, she does nothing
> A Methusaleah declares a blocking minion, but the opponent increases
>its
> stealth above the blocking minions intercept. May a Mathusaleah
>choose an
> other blocking minion, or the action succeeds?
You may continue to attempt to block with other minions.
>There is a combat between the acting and opposing minion. In the
>damage
> resolution phase the opposing minion loses its last blood (so she
>has now 0).
> The acting prevents all damage, and plays Pulled Fangs. The opposing
>minion
> burns or not?
He burns. no blood to pay for the Pulled fang damage. The combo is legal only
if the acting vampire did more damage than the defender. As you said the
acting vampire prevented all damage, so as long as he succesfully did one point
or more to the opposing vampire at close range it's a legal move.
>
>4. The superior version of Cloak The Gathering can be played by a tapped
>vampir?
Yes, tapped vampires can play action modifiers.
>
>5. If a camarilla vampire calls a Praxis seizure, can sabbat vampires
>cast a vote?
Damn, I am only 4/5. I have an idea, but I don't want to lead you astray, so I
will let someone who actually bought Sabbat answer you. I have never found any
for sale. I don't think Sabbat can vote on a Camerilla issue, such as Praxis
Seizure, Camerilla Exempliary, etc... but I am not positive.
Jason
James Coupe wrote:
>
> In article <34E5A445...@mail.datanet.hu>, Greg Hoppan
> <al...@mail.datanet.hu> writes
> >Dear LSJ,
> >
> >I need your official answers to the followings:
> >> >1. My vampire has no blood, so she hunts. Someone blocks the action.
> > I play Change of Target. My vampire untaps. Must she hunt again, or
> >not?
> >
>> No. There are a couple of reasons for it.
>
> 1) A vampire who has no blood on them HAS to hunt - as you seem to
> already know.
>
> 2) Change of Target says, on the card text, that if that minion takes an
> action again that turn, it cannot be the same action. Right? (Checking
> the card text - it's possible I'm wrong because I'm using the card text
> text file from Wizards which is sometimes wrong - I'll just get my copy
> of the card). Yeah, that's right.
>
> So what happens? I'm untapped and HAVE to hunt but I'm bound, by Change
> of Target, to not hunt again.
>
> Well, in this situation there is a standing rule which says that if you
> HAVE to do something which you are forbidden to do, you do nothing.
>> >2. A Methusaleah declares a blocking minion, but the opponent increases> >its
> > stealth above the blocking minions intercept. May a Mathusaleah
> >choose an
> > other blocking minion, or the action succeeds?
>> Yes, the same Methuselah may choose a different blocker. Let's say the
> following happens:
>
> You have Sheldon, Lord of the Clog out and I have two vampires -
> Giuiliano Vincenzi (who has fortitude) and Dieter Kleist (who has
> auspex). Sheldon decides that he'll bleed me. For some reason, I
> decide that I'd like to block with Giuliano (stupidly spelt 2 capacity
> Gangrel). Maybe the fact that he's got Fortitude means that I can
> prevent damage from Sheldon, most likely. Sheldon was pretty clever
> though. His methuselah plays a Swallowed by the Night for +1 stealth
> (not a maneuver as we are not in combat yet). "Oh no," says I,
> "Giuliano has no intercept at all. What shall I do?" Well because I
> *can* still block with Dieter, Dieter decides that he'll play an
> Enhanced Senses that I have in my hand to get +1 intercept. And the
> entire thing can go on and on - if I found I couldn't block with Dieter
> but drew a card which would let a third vampire of mine block, then that
> would work as well cos I could still block with them.
>
> >> >3. There is a combat between the acting and opposing minion. In the> >damage
> > resolution phase the opposing minion loses its last blood (so she
> >has now 0).
> > The acting prevents all damage, and plays Pulled Fangs. The opposing
> >minion
> > burns or not?
> >
>> Unfortunately, yes. Pulled Fangs is completely legal here because the
> acting minion inflicted more damage (1) to the opposing minion than the
> opposing minion did to him (0 - because it was prevented). So we can
> play Pulled Fangs here.
>
> Now, Pulled Fangs deals 1 aggravated damage. To take a slightly
> different tack, what happens if Basilia hits you for one hand damage -
> which is aggravated because of her special ability - and you have no
> blood. Well, you have no blood when you take aggravated damage and so
> are burned. That's right there in the rules.
>
> So, Pulled Fangs also does 1 aggravated damage. So, the opposing minion
> is burned.
>
> Now, a lot of people disagree with this. When Vampire: The Eternal
> Struggle was still only Jyhad, aggravated damage worked slightly
> differently (I won't bore you with how) and Pulled Fangs couldn't burn a
> minion. It would only put you into torpor. So people think that it
> over-powered it in V:TES so they say, as a house rule, that Pulled Fangs
> won't burn vampires. Which is alright for a house rule BUT if you play
> in an official tournament, that won't apply.
>> >4. The superior version of Cloak The Gathering can be played by a tapped
> >vampir?
> >
>> Yes. There are no rules which state a minion has to be untapped to play
> action modifiers. Indeed, because a vampire is tapped when they attempt
> an action, they normally are tapped when they play action modifiers
> (sorry, LSJ, if that sounds like an exact quote of something you said
> the other day).
>> >5. If a camarilla vampire calls a Praxis seizure, can sabbat vampires
> >cast a vote?
> >
>> Yes, as odd as it seems.
>
> On all votes, anybody can vote. This includes Camarilla, Sabbat and
> Independent (say, Thetmes with 2 votes or the high capacity Giovanni
> whose name eludes me).
>
> However, there are a couple of exceptions but these only occur because
> of card text. A couple of the Sabbat votes say that Camarilla vampires
> can't vote and the Camarilla can get their own back with Closed Session.
> These are the only ways to stop people voting simply because of their
> sect.
All correct. I may just retire :).
Thanks for the typing, James.
--
L. Scott Johnson (vte...@wizards.com)
Official VtES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast.
(*) - Subject to review by Rules Team