Questions...please help...

Hi, just a couple of questions here: 1) Can a minion play 2 successive Seduction cards after an action? Example: A taps to bleed and plays Seduction on B and then another Seduction on C. 2) This may have been covered already so I'm sorry but what happens when a vampire attempting to leave torpor gets blocked and attempts to use Kiss of Ra? Can the vampire even use Kiss of Ra in the first place? If so, does the blocking vampire still have the chance to diablerize? 3) Is someone allowed to play a WWEF even if the action is not directed at them? I heard that when using a WWEF the minion using that card must attempt to block so can this vampire then "attempt" to block reasoning that there "might" be chance that somehow that vampire could block. Thanks in advance... Alex

ALEX HARMON wrote: > > Hi, just a couple of questions here: > > 1) Can a minion play 2 successive Seduction cards after an action? > Example: A taps to bleed and plays Seduction on B and then another > Seduction on C. A minion may not play the same action modifier on an action. > > 2) This may have been covered already so I'm sorry but what happens when > a vampire attempting to leave torpor gets blocked and attempts to use > Kiss of Ra? Can the vampire even use Kiss of Ra in the first place? If > so, does the blocking vampire still have the chance to diablerize? > Yes he can use it. The action is blocked so the vampire may be burned. The blocker goes to topor if it survives the blood hunt. The reason that this is hard to grasp is that it is counter-intuitive. Logically, if the blocker is sent to topor by the Kiss, how could he burn the vampire. But the rules and the card state otherwise. The card says "the action is blocked, and the blocking vampire goes to topor". Blocked...Topor. Blocked => diablarie. > 3) Is someone allowed to play a WWEF even if the action is not directed > at them? I heard that when using a WWEF the minion using that card must > attempt to block so can this vampire then "attempt" to block reasoning > that there "might" be chance that somehow that vampire could block. > Yes. That is why many feel the card is broken or at least poorly written. You do not have to react in any other way to the action other than to wake. Notice that in Sabbat the Forced Awakening card is written so that there is a consequence to doing nothing. This is not a coincidence. By the way, can anyone think of a reason you would want to play with a Forced Awakening rather than a WWEF in your deck (other than art)? > Thanks in advance... > > Alex

Michael Kelly <michae...@lmco.com> wrote: > By the way, can anyone think of a reason you would want to play with a > Forced Awakening rather than a WWEF in your deck (other than art)? You can replace the Forced Awakening immediately... --- Eric Pettersen pe...@diderot.ucsf.edu (NeXTmail capable)

ALEX HARMON wrote: > 1) Can a minion play 2 successive Seduction cards after an action? > Example: A taps to bleed and plays Seduction on B and then another > Seduction on C. No. Seduction is an Action Modifier. Only one of each (by card name) can be played by a minion in a single action. > 2) This may have been covered already so I'm sorry but what happens when > a vampire attempting to leave torpor gets blocked and attempts to use > Kiss of Ra? Can the vampire even use Kiss of Ra in the first place? If > so, does the blocking vampire still have the chance to diablerize? Yes, Kiss of Ra can be used from Torpor. If it is used, the blocker goes to Torpor immediately. Diablerie can only be done by a ready vampire, so the blocker will lose his diablerie option (similar to his fate if the acting vampire had played Blood Brother Ambush and the blocker went to Torpor as a result of that combat). > 3) Is someone allowed to play a WWEF even if the action is not directed > at them? I heard that when using a WWEF the minion using that card must > attempt to block so can this vampire then "attempt" to block reasoning > that there "might" be chance that somehow that vampire could block. Yes. WwEF (and its cousin, Forced Awakening) does *not* require the awakened vampire to attempt to block or to play another reaction card. -- L. Scott Johnson (vte...@regency.wizards.com) Official VtES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. (*) - Subject to review by Rules Team

Michael Kelly wrote: "By the way, can anyone think of a reason you would want to play with a Forced Awakening rather than a WWEF in your deck (other than art)?" Because you get to draw a card as soon as you play FA when you must wait until the action is over to draw up for the WWEF. Having your hand size reduced is a substantial disadvantage in many high hand cycle decks. (Of course, as I don't have a FA on me, I could be remembering it wrong, but I am fairly certain that you get to draw up imediately as opposed to WWEF.) Peter D Bakija PD...@aol.com "In America, first you get the Sugar, then you get the Power, then you get the Women." -Homer

In article <33383A...@lmco.com>, Michael Kelly <michae...@lmco.com> writes: > >By the way, can anyone think of a reason you would want to play with a >Forced Awakening rather than a WWEF in your deck (other than art)? > >> Thanks in advance... >> >> Alex > > With Forced Awakening you get to replace it right away. This can be infinitely useful if your playing the right kindo of deck. Then again, a little Fragment Book of Nod and WWEF beats that hands down. Chance Chance "If you think you can, you're right. If you think you can't, you're right!" -- Henry Ford

A friend of mine is looking for a Fragment of the book of Nod card. How much do they go for? Also. I am currently running a Nosferatu Deck. High in Obfuscate, Animalism, and Potence. Are there any cards that are ESSENTIAL to a deck like this, so I know what to look for? 9 times out of 10 my prey is a Tremere Prey deck heavy in Dominate and Theumatargy. Thanks y'all Matt

salem christ.... (k940...@spamtrap.bohm.anu.edu.au) wrote: : ALEX HARMON wrote: : > : > Hi, just a couple of questions here: : > : > 1) Can a minion play 2 successive Seduction cards after an action? : > Example: A taps to bleed and plays Seduction on B and then another : > Seduction on C. : one action modifier per minion per action. so no. "One of each action modifier per minion per action" - a minion may play more than one action modifier on a single action, but not two of the *same* action modifier. [ quoted text not captured ]

[ quoted text not captured ] Immortal Grapple. Hidden Lurker. Scorpion Sting. Maneuver/Press cards Good support cards include many of the animalism retainers, Pulled Fangs, Taste of Vitae, and Storm Sewers. Tremere are excellent at second round and ranged combat. If you can keep it to close range, keep him from dodging, and prevent it from going to 2 rounds you will win. You will want to do massive damage in a single strike in case you face a blurring Brujah. So Potence cards like Fists of Death, Undead Strength, and Torn Signpost all stack. There are also a number of cards from the newer sets which will also stack with this combo or replace part of it: Burning Wrath, Increased Strength, Carrion Crows, Decapitate, Disarm, Fire in the Blood, Twisting the Knife. A good blow would be FoD + TS + US + IS + CC = 10 points of damage + Pulled Fangs