[LSJ] Mind Rape

On A's turn X, Arika (Meth A) Mind Rapes Valerius (Meth B). On A's turn X + 1, Meth A burns the MR, untaps Valerius, and takes control of him. Meth B is ousted during A's turn X + 1. What happens to Valerius at the end of A's turn X + 1? I believe that A loses control of him (card text), and he is removed from the game, since B is ousted. Is this correct? Thanks, Pat

On Tue, 2 Jan 2007 20:24:58 -0500, "Pat" <patric...@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote: >On A's turn X, Arika (Meth A) Mind Rapes Valerius (Meth B). >On A's turn X + 1, Meth A burns the MR, untaps Valerius, and takes control >of him. Meth B is ousted during A's turn X + 1. What happens to Valerius at >the end of A's turn X + 1? Control returns to the ousted player, and the card is burned. >I believe that A loses control of him (card text), and he is removed from >the game, since B is ousted. Is this correct? Yes. LSJ 9/2/06 (About Temptation, but same effect) http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/f5ebecf4de46179f

The Lasombra wrote: > On Tue, 2 Jan 2007 20:24:58 -0500, "Pat" > <patric...@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote: > >>On A's turn X, Arika (Meth A) Mind Rapes Valerius (Meth B). > >>On A's turn X + 1, Meth A burns the MR, untaps Valerius, and takes control >>of him. Meth B is ousted during A's turn X + 1. What happens to Valerius at >>the end of A's turn X + 1? > > Control returns to the ousted player, and the card is burned. didn't that get changed to 'removed from game' rather than 'burned' not too long ago? Doesn't matter very often, but occasionally.... -- salem http://users.tpg.com.au/adsltqna/vtes/ (replace 'hotmail' with 'yahoo' to email)

On Jan 3, 2:20 pm, Salem <salem_christ....@hotmail.com> wrote: > The Lasombra wrote: > > On Tue, 2 Jan 2007 20:24:58 -0500, "Pat" > > <patrick.l...@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote: > > >>On A's turn X, Arika (Meth A) Mind Rapes Valerius (Meth B). > > >>On A's turn X + 1, Meth A burns the MR, untaps Valerius, and takes control > >>of him. Meth B is ousted during A's turn X + 1. What happens to Valerius at > >>the end of A's turn X + 1? > > > Control returns to the ousted player, and the card is burned.didn't that get changed to 'removed from game' rather than 'burned' not > too long ago? Doesn't matter very often, but occasionally.... > > -- > salemhttp://users.tpg.com.au/adsltqna/vtes/ > (replace 'hotmail' with 'yahoo' to email) Yes. Sadly i cannot chain demonic posseisions any more cos the vampires and, frankly, the ash heap they are in no longer exist once the meth goes. Sux! :)

[ quoted text not captured ] Hmmm. I was thinking of the rulebook change that made all your controlled cards be removed from the game when you are ousted, instead of burned. It seems that returning control of a card to an ousted player still results in the card being burned, rather than removed from the game. Seems mildly inconsistent to me, but I doubt it'd matter for much. Wait.....if i control a minion, and Tension in the Ranks is in play, and I am due to return control of that minion to an ousted player, do I lose a pool when the minion burns? Presumably I would have to, since the minion can't have been controlled by the other, non-exisitng, methuselah in the mean time.... -- salem [ quoted text not captured ]

[ quoted text not captured ] The minion returned to an ousted player is removed from play.

[ quoted text not captured ] Is that new or have i missed a previous ruling somewhere (or do i need to RTFM?)? :) The most recent ruling I could find using google groups was a 2002 one where you said the minion was burned. (Not that I am complaining, I think this works perfectly with the rule that an ousted meth's cards are removed from the game). -- salem [ quoted text not captured ]

Salem wrote: > LSJ wrote: >> The minion returned to an ousted player is removed from play. > > Is that new or have i missed a previous ruling somewhere (or do i need > to RTFM?)? :) > > The most recent ruling I could find using google groups was a 2002 one > where you said the minion was burned. > > (Not that I am complaining, I think this works perfectly with the rule > that an ousted meth's cards are removed from the game). > It is part and parcel with that rule.