Memories of Mortality (LSJ ?)

"any damage the vampire inflicts one allies is reduced to 0". What about Oubliette : "and opposing minion burns one blood or life after combat" ? And Theft of Vitae, is it considered as damage to an ally ? Thanks, -- Orfeo Giovanni, the Traitor 8 Cap, Sabbat DOM / OBT / NEC / Obf Orfeo gets -1 intercept against Lasombra ; + 1 bleed against the controller of any ready Giovanni. ------------ VTES french forum : news://news.zoo-logique.org/VTES-francophone http://no.exit.free.fr (onlive novel) http://cypheranima.free.fr (goth band)

"Orpheus" <orph...@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message news:ae630c$8ci$1...@wanadoo.fr... > "any damage the vampire inflicts one allies is reduced to 0". > > What about Oubliette : "and opposing minion burns one blood or life after > combat" ? burning life or blood is not damage. Therefore cards refering to those effects aren't affected in any way by memories of mortality. > And Theft of Vitae, is it considered as damage to an ally ? no it's still a life/blood steal card. It doesn't deal damage to the opposing ally. It works even under memories of mortality. > Thanks, de rien =) reyda

"Orpheus" <orph...@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message news:ae630c$8ci$1...@wanadoo.fr... > "any damage the vampire inflicts one allies is reduced to 0". > > What about Oubliette : "and opposing minion burns one blood or life after > combat" ? > And Theft of Vitae, is it considered as damage to an ally ? I figured that Theft and Oubliette would work ( being that they're not damage ) but I checked, and found on Google. >>The vampire (with Memories of Mortality) will do 0 damage to the ally. >>Does this include environmental damage (ie Weather Control, Carrion Crows)? > >No. > >That's part of the definition of environmental damage, damage that isn't >inflicted by the vampire. Weather Control, Carrion Crows, and damage from >retainers will all damage the ally in combat with a vampire even when the >vampire is afflicted with Memories of Mortality. > >Notice that a vampire could also successfully use Theft of Vitae, Call the >Lamprey, or Tongue of the Serpent even though it had MoM as blood loss is >not damage. > > >Carpe noctem. > >Lasombra

"Orpheus" asked about Memories of Mortality: >"any damage the vampire inflicts one allies is reduced to 0". >What about Oubliette : "and opposing minion burns one blood or life after >combat" ? This is not damage, and so is unafffected by Memories of Mortality. >And Theft of Vitae, is it considered as damage to an ally ? Stealing life is not damage, and is unaffected by Memories of Mortality. LSJ 2001-06-20 http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3B30C1F4.1FAB8E8F%40white-wolf.com LSJ 2001-08-20 http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3B80EB7F.751ED3FC%40white-wolf.com Carpe noctem. Lasombra http://www.TheLasombra.com

> >"any damage the vampire inflicts one allies is reduced to 0". > > >What about Oubliette : "and opposing minion burns one blood or life after > >combat" ? > > This is not damage, and so is unafffected by Memories of Mortality. And what about the damage from Catatonic fear ? Is it considered as inflicted by the opposing minion, and thus reduced to 0 ?

On Wed, 12 Jun 2002 13:26:52 +0200, "Orpheus" asked about Memories of Mortality: >> >"any damage the vampire inflicts one allies is reduced to 0". [ quoted text not captured ] The damage from Catatonic Fear is damage inflicted by a strike, therefore it is damage from the minion, therefore it is reduced to zero by Memories of Mortality. [ quoted text not captured ]

[ quoted text not captured ] Correct. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

> > And what about the damage from Catatonic fear ? Is it considered as > > inflicted by the opposing minion, and thus reduced to 0 ? > > Yes. Wait, can't you only be an "opposing minion" during combat? And doesn't Catatonic Fear do damage after combat? --Brian

[ quoted text not captured ] Card text on Memories mentions neither "combat" nor "opposing". [ quoted text not captured ]