[LSJ] Tumninos / Tarot Q

Tumninos : Requires a ready non-Sterile Ravnos with a capacity above 4. +1 stealth action. Put this card in play. It becomes a 2-capacity Ravnos with one level of Chimerstry. You may move a master: Discipline card from your hand to this vampire (pay cost as normal). This vampire is not considered unique, must hunt this turn, and is the same sect as the acting Ravnos. My question is about the "From your hand" part. Do you need to have the Discipline card in your hand a) when you play the Tumninos (put it on the table with it) b) right after you've replaced the Tumninos c) when the action to put Tumninos on play succeeds (so you can replace after the last stealth card if any) I'd say C but need to B sure... T.I.A. Orpheus

[ quoted text not captured ] Definitely c), since it lacks any card text saying otherwise (like: when you announce this action etc). Any effects on an Action cards are resolved when the action succeeds (again, barring card text). This is not like Disguised Weapon, which is resolved immediately b/c it's a combat card. > T.I.A. > > Orpheus

Olive...@gmail.com wrote: > Orpheus wrote: >>Tumninos : >>Requires a ready non-Sterile Ravnos with a capacity above 4. +1 stealth >>action. Put this card in play. It becomes a 2-capacity Ravnos with one >>level of Chimerstry. You may move a master: Discipline card from your >>hand to this vampire (pay cost as normal). This vampire is not >>considered unique, must hunt this turn, and is the same sect as the >>acting Ravnos. >> >>My question is about the "From your hand" part. Do you need to have the >>Discipline card in your hand >> >>c) when the action to put Tumninos on play succeeds (so you can replace >>after the last stealth card if any) >> >>I'd say C but need to B sure... >> > Definitely c), since it lacks any card text saying otherwise (like: > when you announce this action etc). Any effects on an Action cards are > resolved when the action succeeds (again, barring card text). This is > not like Disguised Weapon, which is resolved immediately b/c it's a > combat card. It's "may", so you never "need" to have a Discipline in hand. But, assuming you want to play a Discipline card, correct. (Same for putting a Discipline from hand on Third Tradition, Creation Rites, etc.) Subject line mentions Tarot. Body does not. ? -- LSJ (vtesr...@TRAPwhite-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep (remove spam trap to reply) Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

[ quoted text not captured ] The original question was propably supposed to be whether or not the discipline card could be "drawn" from the Tarot to be placed on Tumnimos...ref. point a)