rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

New SoC preview: Dr. Morrow, The Skindoctor

10 messages from 6 participants · 06 March 2007
original thread on Google Groups

pallando

Dr. Morrow, The Skindoctor Tzimisce, 5, for AUS VIC Sabbat. Black Hand: Morrow may put a graft counter on an ally as a D action. An ally with a graft counter has -1 stealth. Pretty good value for a 5 cap! It seems that the ability wouldn't stack if several counters were put on the same ally. -- regards pallando --------------------- pallando(at)gmx(dot)at

Blooded Sand

[ quoted text not captured ] it follows the for x get y formula, so why would it not stack? it does not that an ally with any graft counters, or an ally with garft counterS gets -1 stealth, but that an ally with A graft counter gets -1 stealth (emphasis mine) surely taht reads per counter then?

Jozxyqk

Blooded Sand <sand...@gmail.com> wrote: > it follows the for x get y formula, so why would it not stack? it does > not that an ally with any graft counters, or an ally with garft > counterS gets -1 stealth, but that an ally with A graft counter gets > -1 stealth (emphasis mine) surely taht reads per counter then? I believe it does not stack. Does an ally with 1 graft counter have a graft counter? Yes. He gets -1 stealth. Does an ally with 2 graft counters have a graft counter? Yes. He gets -1 stealth.

sathriel

> I believe it does not stack. > > Does an ally with 1 graft counter have a graft counter? Yes. He gets -1 stealth. > > Does an ally with 2 graft counters have a graft counter? Yes. He gets -1 stealth. Im, with Jozxyqk on this one. Ally gets - 1 stealth if he has one graft counter. It doesn't change anything if he has more. Otherwise it would be spelled "ally hets -1 stealth for each graft counter possesed. My $0,02. Sathriel

LSJ

[ quoted text not captured ] You may stack counters. An ally with a graft counter has -1 stealth. An ally with two graft counters has -1 stealth, since he has a graft counter. An ally with ten graft counters has -1 stealth, since he has a graft counter.

Jozxyqk

[ quoted text not captured ] Do Graft Counters on Jake Washington count as "counters on a master card", for purposes of Goth Band? (I think "no", for the same reason that his life counters don't, but it's worth a shot)

LSJ

Jozxyqk wrote: > Do Graft Counters on Jake Washington count as "counters on a master card", for > purposes of Goth Band? > > (I think "no", for the same reason that his life counters don't, but it's worth > a shot) Since that reason is "he's not a master card while in play", you'd be correct. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/929b5ba5834be7dd (At least you didn't call him Jack this time :-).

librarian

[ quoted text not captured ] Well, life counters aren't really counters, they are merely reminders of how much life he has. Graft counters are explicitly counters per card text, and as such would be manipulable by Goth Band. chris thursday I don't care about you -- Super Fun Cards http://myworld.ebay.com/superfuncards/ auct...@superfuncards.com

Jozxyqk

librarian <auct...@superfuncards.com> wrote: > Well, life counters aren't really counters, they are merely reminders of > how much life he has. Graft counters are explicitly counters per card > text, and as such would be manipulable by Goth Band. That's wrong. Life counters really do exist, as in 6.1.5: "When an ally is brought into play (by any means), he receives blood counters from the blood bank to represent his life (listed on the ally's card)." But, as LSJ says, Jake Washington is not considered a Master Card while in play, so those counters (life, graft, corruption, etc..) are just counters on an ally, and not counters on a Master card.

librarian

Jozxyqk wrote: > librarian <auct...@superfuncards.com> wrote: > >> Well, life counters aren't really counters, they are merely reminders of >> how much life he has. Graft counters are explicitly counters per card >> text, and as such would be manipulable by Goth Band. > > That's wrong. > Life counters really do exist, as in 6.1.5: > "When an ally is brought into play (by any means), he receives blood > counters from the blood bank to represent his life (listed on the > ally's card)." > Haha! That just goes to show you why I never answer rules questions on this NG! If I answer a rules question on the NG, just assume the right answer is the opposite. best - chris [ quoted text not captured ]