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1)is the (1 point of) damage dealt by my zip gun preventable? 2)does brainwash prevent Nosferatu Kingdome (and the like) from transferring blood from blood bank to the brainwashed vamp? If not so, can I move that blood to my pool (according to text brainwash prevent transfers TO the vamp, not from)? 3)is the damage dealt from Catatonic Fear preventable in some way? If used during a Dawn Operation, is that damage aggravated? thanx

"Francois Villon" <federi...@libero.it> a écrit dans le message news: H4HA6.2007$xC3....@news.infostrada.it... > 1)is the (1 point of) damage dealt by my zip gun preventable? yes > 2)does brainwash prevent Nosferatu Kingdome (and the like) from transferring > blood from blood bank to the brainwashed vamp? If not so, can I move that > blood to my pool (according to text brainwash prevent transfers TO the vamp, > not from)? brainwash prevents transferring *to* and *from* the brainwashed vampire. so cards like Nosfe Kingdom or Art museum can't be used. am i wrong ? > 3)is the damage dealt from Catatonic Fear preventable in some way? > If used during a Dawn Operation, is that damage aggravated? no. It's dealt outside combat, so it's not aggravated. (imagine the "ventrue torporize you" deck...) it may be prevented by the single card that can prevent damage outside combat : Blood tears of Kephren comes to mind... > thanx de rien mon gars =) reyda

> > 2)does brainwash prevent Nosferatu Kingdome (and the like) from > transferring > > blood from blood bank to the brainwashed vamp? If not so, can I move that > > blood to my pool (according to text brainwash prevent transfers TO the > vamp, > > not from)? > > brainwash prevents transferring *to* and *from* the brainwashed vampire. so > cards like Nosfe Kingdom or Art museum can't be used. am i wrong ? > It's to and from, but Art Museum and the like don't use transfers. I'd say you can still use 'em. of course there's no way you can get the blood off the vamp, without losing the brainwash. Jeroen

> > "Francois Villon" <federi...@libero.it> a écrit dans le message news: > H4HA6.2007$xC3....@news.infostrada.it... >> 1)is the (1 point of) damage dealt by my zip gun preventable? > > yes > >> 2)does brainwash prevent Nosferatu Kingdome (and the like) from > transferring >> blood from blood bank to the brainwashed vamp? If not so, can I move that >> blood to my pool (according to text brainwash prevent transfers TO the > vamp, >> not from)? > > brainwash prevents transferring *to* and *from* the brainwashed vampire. so > cards like Nosfe Kingdom or Art museum can't be used. am i wrong ? No and yes. No transfers may be made TO the vampire, by card text. However, you require 2 transfers TO the vampire to take one blood OFF. A fine point, but the intent, your thinking, and the card text are are equivalent then. >> 3)is the damage dealt from Catatonic Fear preventable in some way? >> If used during a Dawn Operation, is that damage aggravated? > > no. It's dealt outside combat, so it's not aggravated. (imagine the "ventrue > torporize you" deck...) > it may be prevented by the single card that can prevent damage outside > combat : Blood tears of Kephren comes to mind... Ablative Skin, too. I think. -- Pat Ricochet Soul Jar'rn Fool of Atlanta

Pat Ricochet wrote: > Reyda wrote: > > "Francois Villon" <federi...@libero.it> a écrit: > >> 1)is the (1 point of) damage dealt by my zip gun preventable? > > > > yes Correct. > >> 2)does brainwash prevent Nosferatu Kingdome (and the like) from > > transferring > >> blood from blood bank to the brainwashed vamp? If not so, can I move that > >> blood to my pool (according to text brainwash prevent transfers TO the > > vamp, > >> not from)? > > > > brainwash prevents transferring *to* and *from* the brainwashed vampire. so > > cards like Nosfe Kingdom or Art museum can't be used. am i wrong ? > > No and yes. No transfers may be made TO the vampire, by card text. > However, you require 2 transfers TO the vampire to take one blood OFF. > A fine point, but the intent, your thinking, and the card text are are > equivalent then. Correct. > >> 3)is the damage dealt from Catatonic Fear preventable in some way? > >> If used during a Dawn Operation, is that damage aggravated? > > > > no. It's dealt outside combat, so it's not aggravated. (imagine the "ventrue > > torporize you" deck...) > > it may be prevented by the single card that can prevent damage outside > > combat : Blood tears of Kephren comes to mind... Correct. > Ablative Skin, too. I think. No. Ablative Skin specifies "in combat". -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

>1)is the (1 point of) damage dealt by my zip gun preventable? Yes >2)does brainwash prevent Nosferatu Kingdome (and the like) from transferring >blood from blood bank to the brainwashed vamp? If not so, can I move that >blood to my pool (according to text brainwash prevent transfers TO the vamp, >not from)? You can still move blood ONTO the vamp via Nossie Kingdom, Ecoterrorists, etc, but not off (since that is a Transfer action). >3)is the damage dealt from Catatonic Fear preventable in some way? Hmmm... In theory not with Combat Cards or most common effects, since it is outside the combat structure, and all combat cards should be used inside combat unless stated in the text (I believe - LSJ?) In any event, it could be prevented using Heart of Darkness at superior, since this (unlike most prevention effects) does not specify that it has to be used in combat. >If used during a Dawn Operation, is that damage aggravated? No. Damage from CF happens outside combat due to the "special" effects of S:CE. This means no Ventrue Dawn Op / Catatonic Fear decks, I'm afraid. DH

1)is the (1 point of) damage dealt by my zip gun to my vamp preventable? 2)does brainwash prevent Nosferatu Kingdome (and the like) from transferring blood from blood bank to the brainwashed vamp? If not so, can I move that blood to my pool (according to text brainwash prevent transfers TO the vamp, not from)? 3)is the damage dealt from Catatonic Fear preventable in some way? If used during a Dawn Operation, is that damage aggravated? thanx

In message <3AD3653D...@white-wolf.com>, LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> writes >Pat Ricochet wrote: >> Reyda wrote: >> > "Francois Villon" <federi...@libero.it> a écrit: >> >> 1)is the (1 point of) damage dealt by my zip gun preventable? >> > >> > yes > >Correct. Only thing to remember is that it's *not* preventable via Skin of Steel etc., because it's not considered to come from a strike. Skin of Rock, Flak Jacket etc. are fine. -- James Coupe PGP Key: 0x5D623D5D EBD690ECD7A1F What's the meaning when you speak with so much feeling? B457CA213D7E6 Is it over when you're sober? Is it junk? 68C3695D623D5D

>1)is the (1 point of) damage dealt by my zip gun to my vamp preventable? Yes it can be prevented. >2)does brainwash prevent Nosferatu Kingdome (and the like) from transferring >blood from blood bank to the brainwashed vamp? If not so, can I move that >blood to my pool (according to text brainwash prevent transfers TO the vamp, >not from)? No it doesn't and no you can't respectively. Nosferatu Kingdom, Gang Territory, Arcane Library, etc. are not considered transferring so you can continue to add blood this way (which means you can have a ready minion with a Brainwash on him). Note that removing blood from him is still considered making transfer to him. So you can't put blood on or take blood from a Brainwashed vampire. >3)is the damage dealt from Catatonic Fear preventable in some way? >If used during a Dawn Operation, is that damage aggravated? Well it inflicts damage outside combat so the only way it can be prevented (thus far) is with Blood Tears of Kephran. And since it's outside combat, Dawn Op doesn't affect it. Halcyan 2

)is the (1 point of) damage dealt by my zip gun to my vamp preventable? 2)does brainwash prevent Nosferatu Kingdome (and the like) from transferring blood from blood bank to the brainwashed vamp? If not so, can I move that blood to my pool (according to text brainwash prevent transfers TO the vamp, not from)? 3)is the damage dealt from Catatonic Fear preventable in some way? If used during a Dawn Operation, is that damage aggravated? thanx