rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

LSJ - Cryptic Mission and Retainers

13 messages from 4 participants · 10 July 2002 – 12 July 2002
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Magnus

A question which has come up at my table here in Hamburg : If you use Cryptic Mission to steal one life from a retainer, does he get a damage counter, which would mean that you could steal another blood from him with another cryptic mission ? My understanding is that retainers can only be damaged in combat at long-range, and, assuming that they survive said combat, heal all the damage inflicted to them after combat ends. Taking that into account, I think that if you use Cryptic Mission on a retainer in your turn, and it has more than one life, you can steal one blood (i.e. life ), but cannot kill it with a second cryptic mission. Correct or false ? Thanks ! Magnus

reyda

"Magnus" <magn...@gmx.de> wrote in message news:70eabfe1.02070...@posting.google.com... > My understanding is that retainers can only be damaged in combat at > long-range, and, assuming that they survive said combat, heal all the > damage inflicted to them after combat ends. Taking that into account, > I think that if you use Cryptic Mission on a retainer in your turn, > and it has more than one life, you can steal one blood (i.e. life ), > but cannot kill it with a second cryptic mission. Correct or false ? actually your guess is not correct =) a retainer can be damaged outside combat, via cryptic mission (while we're at it). A retainer damaged outside combat permanently loses life. wihch means you can harm a retainer with two life in two different turns and still kill him. =) by the way, when you play criptic mission, you don't "steal" life or blood from another minion, you merely burn one on the target minion, and gain one blood of the action is successful (superior text). reyda

James Coupe

In message <3d2b9655$0$27977$79c1...@nan-newsreader-03.noos.net>, reyda <true_...@hotmail.com> writes: >by the way, when you play criptic mission, you don't "steal" life or blood >from another minion, you merely burn one on the target minion, The current card text uses "remove" or "damage", depending on the type of minion. This is of relevance when, say, doing it against Ambrosius, or any other normal damage immune retainer or ally. (Who just ignore it, prevented or not.) -- James Coupe PGP 0x5D623D5D I am woman. Here, me raw. EBD690ECD7A1FB457CA2 13D7E668C3695D623D5D

reyda

"James Coupe" <ja...@zephyr.org.uk> wrote in message news:IHYmuFwtj$K9E...@gratiano.zephyr.org.uk... > In message <3d2b9655$0$27977$79c1...@nan-newsreader-03.noos.net>, reyda > <true_...@hotmail.com> writes: > >by the way, when you play criptic mission, you don't "steal" life or blood > >from another minion, you merely burn one on the target minion, > > The current card text uses "remove" or "damage", depending on the type > of minion. > > This is of relevance when, say, doing it against Ambrosius, or any other > normal damage immune retainer or ally. (Who just ignore it, prevented > or not.) thanks for the catch ;)

LSJ

reyda wrote: > > "Magnus" <magn...@gmx.de> wrote in message > news:70eabfe1.02070...@posting.google.com... > > > My understanding is that retainers can only be damaged in combat at > > long-range, and, assuming that they survive said combat, heal all the > > damage inflicted to them after combat ends. Taking that into account, > > I think that if you use Cryptic Mission on a retainer in your turn, > > and it has more than one life, you can steal one blood (i.e. life ), > > but cannot kill it with a second cryptic mission. Correct or false ? > > actually your guess is not correct =) > a retainer can be damaged outside combat, via cryptic mission (while we're > at it). A retainer damaged outside combat permanently loses life. wihch > means you can harm a retainer with two life in two different turns and still > kill him. =) Correct. > by the way, when you play criptic mission, you don't "steal" life or blood > from another minion, you merely burn one on the target minion, and gain one > blood of the action is successful (superior text). "burn blood" from the vampire or "1 damage" to the ally or retainer, but otherwise correct. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

Magnus

"reyda" <true_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<3d2b9655$0$27977$> actually your guess is not correct =) > a retainer can be damaged outside combat, via cryptic mission (while we're > at it). A retainer damaged outside combat permanently loses life. wihch > means you can harm a retainer with two life in two different turns and still > kill him. =) > > by the way, when you play criptic mission, you don't "steal" life or blood > from another minion, you merely burn one on the target minion, and gain one > blood of the action is successful (superior text). Ok, thanks to you and LSJ for the clarifications. A question comes out of this : if you can "permanently" damage a retainer outside combat, does that mean that the damaged retainer will have less life during the next combats ? Magnus

Magnus

"reyda" <true_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<3d2b9655$0$27977$> actually your guess is not correct =) > a retainer can be damaged outside combat, via cryptic mission (while we're > at it). A retainer damaged outside combat permanently loses life. wihch > means you can harm a retainer with two life in two different turns and still > kill him. =) > > by the way, when you play criptic mission, you don't "steal" life or blood > from another minion, you merely burn one on the target minion, and gain one > blood of the action is successful (superior text). Ok, thanks to you and LSJ for the clarifications. [ quoted text not captured ]

Magnus

"reyda" <true_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<3d2b9655$0$27977$> actually your guess is not correct =) > a retainer can be damaged outside combat, via cryptic mission (while we're > at it). A retainer damaged outside combat permanently loses life. wihch > means you can harm a retainer with two life in two different turns and still > kill him. =) > > by the way, when you play criptic mission, you don't "steal" life or blood > from another minion, you merely burn one on the target minion, and gain one > blood of the action is successful (superior text). Ok, thanks to you and LSJ for the clarifications. [ quoted text not captured ]

reyda

"Magnus" <magn...@gmx.de> wrote in message news:70eabfe1.02071...@posting.google.com... > A question comes out of this : if you can "permanently" damage a > retainer outside combat, does that mean that the damaged retainer will > have less life during the next combats ? yes =D reyda

reyda

"Magnus" <magn...@gmx.de> wrote in message news:70eabfe1.02071...@posting.google.com... > A question comes out of this : if you can "permanently" damage a > retainer outside combat, does that mean that the damaged retainer will > have less life during the next combats ? yes =) reyda

reyda

"Magnus" <magn...@gmx.de> wrote in message news:70eabfe1.02071...@posting.google.com... > A question comes out of this : if you can "permanently" damage a > retainer outside combat, does that mean that the damaged retainer will > have less life during the next combats ? yes =p reyda

Magnus

"reyda" <true_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<3d2c90ff$0$19545$79c1...@nan-newsreader-01.noos.net>... > yes =) <grumble> Sorry for the multiple posts, Google was kind of on the fritz and the first times it didn´t seem like my message had passed. Thanks for the answer ! :) Magnus

James Coupe

In message <70eabfe1.02071...@posting.google.com>, Magnus <magn...@gmx.de> writes: ><grumble> Sorry for the multiple posts, Google was kind of on the >fritz and the first times it didn´t seem like my message had passed. >Thanks for the answer ! :) I recommend registering at: http://news.cis.dfn.de/ This is much faster and more efficient than Google, which has delays of several hours on arrival. For news-readers, I recommend Free Agent, Calypso or Gravity under Windows, all of which get good reviews at various points. Unix has a plethera of available software. If people *really* want to use Outlook Express for reading Usenet, I also recommend: http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/quotefix.php The first section (in red) is how lots of posts from OE users come out on other systems. (Possibly also their own.) [ quoted text not captured ]