Ally Questions That Just Came Up

1. Can an ally in the uncontrolled region block? 2. Can Resurrection be used on a wraith created by Khazar's Diary if the wraith card was an ally card? If so, would it come back as a wraith or the ally card?

Robert Scythe wrote: > 1. Can an ally in the uncontrolled region block? Nope. It's not ready. 6. Minion Phase ... Other Methuselah's ready untapped minions may attempt to block your action... > 2. Can Resurrection be used on a wraith created by Khazar's Diary if > the wraith card was an ally card? If so, would it come back as a > wraith or the ally card? Nope. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/0baaba8e22cb393b LSJ: "The ally in the ash heap is not the one that was burned. The wraith with +1 stealth was the ally that was burned. " found searching google groups for "compel the spirit author:lsj" i didn't even have to bother restricting the search to the r.g.t-c.j group. -- salem (replace 'hotmail' with 'gmail' to email) "In *my* Assamite deck, this would pwn you in teh FAEC, so shut up." "Thats only cos u've never sene mi Gionavvi PUNCHnMUCNH u asshat." - James Coupe

On Dec 28, 11:50 pm, Salem <kella...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Robert Scythe wrote: > > 1. Can an ally in the uncontrolled region block? > > Nope. It's not ready. Whoops, wrong question. The question was supposed to be about if the ally was in the uncontrolled region before your turn, will it be able to act on your turn? Thanks for the other referrence.

On 29 dec, 09:17, Robert Scythe <tbel...@gmail.com> wrote: > Whoops, wrong question. The question was supposed to be about if the > ally was in the uncontrolled region before your turn, will it be able > to act on your turn? > You mean, will he become ready at the end of opponent's turn, or does the 'go from uncontrolled to ready' thing only happen during your own turn? Good one. The rulebook only says 'at the end of the turn', where 'the turn' = the turn the recruit action took place. LSJ?

[ quoted text not captured ] ....? Only ready untapped minions can act. Exceptions are only made by explicit rules or text (see: the rulebook section on torpor, or cards playable by vamps in torpor). Oh wait, unless you mean: Someone with enkil cog (etc) recruits an ally during the predator's (or anyone else's) turn. 6.1.5 of the rulebooks says: "At the end of the turn, any allies that were placed in your uncontrolled region (to indicate that they cannot act) are moved to your ready region." end of _the_ turn, not end of _your_ turn. So at the end of your predator's (or whoever's) turn, the ally gets moved to the ready region. and then ready untapped minions may act during your minion phase. which will be that ally, barring anything else weird. ... ooooh! Baali getting a free turn out of Herald of Topheth! anyone got any Enkil's to trade? [ quoted text not captured ]

On Dec 29, 3:21 am, Salem <kella...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Oh wait, unless you mean: > > Someone with enkil cog (etc) recruits an ally during the predator's (or > anyone else's) turn. > > 6.1.5 of the rulebooks says: > "At the end of the turn, any allies that were placed in your > uncontrolled region (to indicate that they cannot act) are moved to your > ready region." There was different wording in the older rulebook I had, so it seems they will be ready, however there are other means (besides recruiting) for an ally to find itself in the uncontrolled (mainly Heaven's Gate) before your turn. Will they be ready?

[ quoted text not captured ] At the end of the turn, yeah. [ quoted text not captured ]

[ quoted text not captured ] Is the placing of newly-recruited allies in the uncontrolled region merely a reminder that they can't act, or are they indeed not ready, or is it more than just a reminder but less than being unready...? 1) The Madness Network is in play. A plays Frontal Assault, beats B's minions around as best she can, and B's surviving Zebulon recruits the Muddled Vampire Hunter in A's minion phase, which then ends. Does A pay Frontal pool for Muddles? 2) B controls Basilia who has Feral Spirit and the Enkil Cog. During A's turn, Basilia recruits High Top. B decides to act one more time, and her Frederick the Weak plays Kindred Segregation. Can High Top attempt to block?

Malone wrote: > Is the placing of newly-recruited allies in the uncontrolled region > merely a reminder that they can't act, or are they indeed not ready, > or is it more than just a reminder but less than being unready...? Both. The uncontrolled region is not part of the ready region, so a minion there is not "ready". > 1) The Madness Network is in play. A plays Frontal Assault, beats > B's minions around as best she can, and B's surviving Zebulon recruits > the Muddled Vampire Hunter in A's minion phase, which then ends. Does > A pay Frontal pool for Muddles? He's not ready, no. > 2) B controls Basilia who has Feral Spirit and the Enkil Cog. During > A's turn, Basilia recruits High Top. B decides to act one more time, > and her Frederick the Weak plays Kindred Segregation. Can High Top > attempt to block? He's not ready, no.