rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Tournament ruling question

6 messages from 5 participants · 24 May 2010 – 25 May 2010
original thread on Google Groups

Dr.Mafrune

What penalty should be applied to a player who gets into tournie final and has a legal deck, but has written on his list a minor fault respect to the real deck. The fault consist to jot down a vampire instead of another. The deck is near to disciplineless and the vampire has no special abilities ( wrote Spleen, had Givraan Dalaal on the deck). This is a real situation which happened last 21th May. The player entered second place, with 2 Tables + 9 points, last seed was 1 Table + 6,5 points or 7 points (can´t remember exactly).

Jozxyqk

Dr.Mafrune <tristan...@gmail.com> wrote: > What penalty should be applied to a player who gets into tournie final > and has a legal deck, but has written on his list a minor fault > respect to the real deck. The fault consist to jot down a vampire > instead of another. The deck is near to disciplineless and the vampire > has no special abilities ( wrote Spleen, had Givraan Dalaal on the > deck). Report him to the local authorities and have him arrested immediately! But seriously, just allow the deck list to be corrected. If there's no potential foul play going on here, what's the big deal?

Peter D Bakija

On May 24, 9:50 am, "Dr.Mafrune" <tristan.endr...@gmail.com> wrote: > What penalty should be applied to a player who gets into tournie final > and has a legal deck, but has written on his list a minor fault > respect to the real deck. The fault consist to jot down a vampire > instead of another. I'm not in charge or anything, but I'd say that a reasonable penalty would be to say "Huh. That's not right. Make sure it is next time." and fix the deck list if you insist on having them. End of story. -Peter

LSJ

On May 24, 9:50 am, "Dr.Mafrune" <tristan.endr...@gmail.com> wrote: [ quoted text not captured ] If you (the judge) suspect that he cheated (and swapped out Spleen for Ghivraan in response to something that occurred during the tournament -- like a preponderance of other decks with Spleen in them), then DQ him. If you suspect that it's just a problem of jotting, then make it match (swap out Ghivraan for the as-written Spleen) when the disparity is discovered (unless it's in the middle of the game and the substitution unduly affects play).

J

The easy way to avoid this. Don't have deck lists. -- J

Dr.Mafrune

[ quoted text not captured ] Thank you for the answers!!! Sadly the penalty applied was game loss for the player, so he couldn´t enter the final round. This happened on a big tournie ( 46 players) and the player, a friend of mine, is deeply disappointed with the decission. The judges, in my modest oppion, applied wrongly the rule for illegal deck. You either apply disqualification, because you think it´s a cheat or let it be corrected if you think it´s not.