rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

LSJ: Stealth on Strained Vitae Supply

2 messages from 2 participants · 08 April 1998
original thread on Google Groups

Michael Beer

Card text is: "Master. If this card is in play, vampires do not get stealth when hunting. Any Methuselah may use a master phase action to put 1 pool on this card. If the number of counters on this card equals the number of Methuselahs in the game, burn this card" Card text of Igo, the Hungry says: " Igo does not get the usual +1 stealth for hunting. " Question: Can hunting under the effect of SVS get stealth in any way (Modifiers, permanents, ...) or is any additional stealth reduced to zero due to card text. Wording seems to support this view that hunting has *no* stealth at all and there would be *no* means to change it. You could IMHO use cards that would normally would increase your stealth, but in case of hunting under SVS condition, without effect. This could severely boost combat decks (which is good). Which treatment of Strained Vitae Supply is correct? Michael Beer

LSJ

Michael Beer wrote: > [Strained Vitae Supply] Card text is: > > "Master. If this card is in play, vampires do not get stealth when > hunting. Any Methuselah may use a master phase action to put 1 pool on > this card. If the number of counters on this card equals the number of > Methuselahs in the game, burn this card" > > Can hunting under the effect of SVS get stealth in any way (Modifiers, > permanents, ...) or is any additional stealth reduced to zero due to > card text. The former. Only the default +1 stealth (or whatever other default stealth a vampire has when hunting) is affected. That's the stealth the vampire doesn't get when hunting. > Wording seems to support this view that hunting has *no* > stealth at all and there would be *no* means to change it. You could > IMHO use cards that would normally would increase your stealth, but in > case of hunting under SVS condition, without effect. The wording is poor, yes. But "do not get" is not the same as "can not get". -- L. Scott Johnson (vte...@wizards.com) Official VtES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. (*) - Subject to review by Rules Team