Ablative Skin Q:

Can I prevent a Blood Fury strike with the counters on Ablative Skin?

Roger Carhult wrote: > > Can I prevent a Blood Fury strike with the counters on Ablative Skin? From the online rulings: Ablative Skin Cannot be used to prevent damage that cannot be prevented by cards that require Fortitude (e.g., Blood Rage and Blood Fury). [LSJ 19990216] -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:3B8BED48...@white-wolf.com... > Roger Carhult wrote: > > > > Can I prevent a Blood Fury strike with the counters on Ablative Skin? > > From the online rulings: > > Ablative Skin > Cannot be used to prevent damage that cannot be prevented by cards that > require Fortitude (e.g., Blood Rage and Blood Fury). [LSJ 19990216] Ah should have checked, sorry. Hmmm another thing; if I play Free States Rant and there's opnly me and one more player left, and he has only one vampire and I call the vote with a 7+ cap vamp, do I have to give myself one point of a vampire I have? According to text this seems to be the case but I want to be sure. And what if I play Charming Lobby and choose Political Stranglehold and then it's delayed with Delaying Tactics, the card is still considered played and cannot be played again? (my guess is yes).

In message <9mh0u6$25t4o$1...@ID-104455.news.dfncis.de>, Roger Carhult <rogc...@student.luth.se> writes >Ah should have checked, sorry. Hmmm another thing; if I play Free States >Rant and there's opnly me and one more player left, and he has only one >vampire and I call the vote with a 7+ cap vamp, do I have to give myself one >point of a vampire I have? According to text this seems to be the case but I >want to be sure. Yes. You have to allocate the entire set of points. >And what if I play Charming Lobby and choose Political Stranglehold and then >it's delayed with Delaying Tactics, the card is still considered played and >cannot be played again? (my guess is yes). Yes. "[pre] Call a referendum listed on a political action card in your hand (play that card) or allowed by an effect in play. If the referendum ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ passes, then the next referendum called} thereafter passes automatically." Emphasis mine. -- James Coupe PGP Key: 0x5D623D5D Close your eyes so you don't feel them EBD690ECD7A1F They don't need to see you cry B457CA213D7E6 I can't promise I will heal you, but if you want to I will try 68C3695D623D5D

On Tue, 28 Aug 2001, James Coupe wrote: [charming lobby] > > "[pre] Call a referendum listed on a political action card in your hand > (play that card) or allowed by an effect in play. If the referendum > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > passes, then the next referendum called} thereafter passes > automatically." i thought the card wasn't played until after the action had been not blocked. which may or may not be supported by the above quote, as i am unsure as to whether the playing of the referendum card is part of the announcement of the action, or part of the resolution. if the playing is part of the resolution, is it replaced? as no cards are replaced during a political action, i am assuming not, but if the referendum card is played slightly before entering the "during a political action" bit, then it might be replaceable. i've never been confortable with knowing how charming lobby works. i mean, i know what it's supposed to do, effect wise, it's just the timing of all the bits that messes me up. salem.

"....salem christ...." wrote: > > On Tue, 28 Aug 2001, James Coupe wrote: > > [charming lobby] > > > > "[pre] Call a referendum listed on a political action card in your hand > > (play that card) or allowed by an effect in play. If the referendum > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > passes, then the next referendum called} thereafter passes > > automatically." > > i thought the card wasn't played until after the action had been not > blocked. which may or may not be supported by the above quote, as i am Correct. > unsure as to whether the playing of the referendum card is part of the > announcement of the action, or part of the resolution. Part of the resolution. You announce which referendum you are calling when you announce the Charming Lobby action, but the card (if any) isn't played until the action resolves. > if the playing is part of the resolution, is it replaced? as no cards are > replaced during a political action, i am assuming not, but if the > referendum card is played slightly before entering the "during a > political action" bit, then it might be replaceable. No cards are replaced during a *referendum*. The PA card is played before the referendum, so is replaced. [ quoted text not captured ]

In message <Pine.SOL.3.90.1010829164032.21952C-100000@bohm>, ....salem christ.... <s940...@bohm.anu.edu.au> writes >> "[pre] Call a referendum listed on a political action card in your hand >> (play that card) or allowed by an effect in play. If the referendum >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> passes, then the next referendum called} thereafter passes >> automatically." > >i thought the card wasn't played until after the action had been not >blocked. which may or may not be supported by the above quote, as i am >unsure as to whether the playing of the referendum card is part of the >announcement of the action, or part of the resolution. Delaying Tactics, as given in the original question, is played during the referendum. Since we're in the referendum, Charming Lobby has resolved and the card has been played - as per LSJ's post. [ quoted text not captured ]

"James Coupe" <ja...@zephyr.org.uk> wrote in message news:pC8a9IFf...@gratiano.zephyr.org.uk... > In message <Pine.SOL.3.90.1010829164032.21952C-100000@bohm>, ....salem > christ.... <s940...@bohm.anu.edu.au> writes > >> "[pre] Call a referendum listed on a political action card in your hand > >> (play that card) or allowed by an effect in play. If the referendum > >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >> passes, then the next referendum called} thereafter passes > >> automatically." > > > >i thought the card wasn't played until after the action had been not > >blocked. which may or may not be supported by the above quote, as i am > >unsure as to whether the playing of the referendum card is part of the > >announcement of the action, or part of the resolution. > > Delaying Tactics, as given in the original question, is played during > the referendum. > > Since we're in the referendum, Charming Lobby has resolved and the card > has been played - as per LSJ's post. Ok I remember what question I actually intended to ask but forgot, it was if the CL is blocked, if the pol action card was considered played. So I guess not :)

> > unsure as to whether the playing of the referendum card is part of the > > announcement of the action, or part of the resolution. > > Part of the resolution. > You announce which referendum you are calling when you announce the Charming > Lobby action, but the card (if any) isn't played until the action resolves. So if Political Strangehold is blocked it can be called by anther minion the same turn since it wasn't considered played, right?

[ quoted text not captured ] If a Charming Lobby that would have called a Political Stranglehold is blocked, then the Political Stranglehold is not played and can be played later. [ quoted text not captured ]

"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:3B9771CD...@white-wolf.com... > Roger Carhult wrote: > > > > > > unsure as to whether the playing of the referendum card is part of the > > > > announcement of the action, or part of the resolution. > > > > > > Part of the resolution. > > > You announce which referendum you are calling when you announce the Charming > > > Lobby action, but the card (if any) isn't played until the action resolves. > > > > So if Political Strangehold is blocked it can be called by anther > > minion the same turn since it wasn't considered played, right? > > If a Charming Lobby that would have called a Political Stranglehold is blocked, > then the Political Stranglehold is not played and can be played later. Ops sorry, I meant to say Charming Lobby yes.