rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Query about Momentum's Edge

4 messages from 3 participants · 04 May 2009 – 05 May 2009
original thread on Google Groups

Kevin Walsh

This is a query about the meaning of the word "usable" in the card text. Is it possible to play the card when you have 0 VPs and wait until you've gained a VP before gaining pool from it? If it is in play, and you subsequently play Gambit Accepted or in some other way reduce your VP total to 0, is it now no longer possible to tap it to gain pool? Momentum's Edge [Gehenna:R, KoT:R] Cardtype: Master Unique master. Only usable if you have one or more victory points. Put this card in play. You may tap this card during your untap phase to gain 1 pool. Kevin Walsh

LSJ

Kevin Walsh wrote: > This is a query about the meaning of the word "usable" in the card > text. Is it possible to play the card when you have 0 VPs and wait > until you've gained a VP before gaining pool from it? No. > If it is in > play, and you subsequently play Gambit Accepted or in some other way > reduce your VP total to 0, is it now no longer possible to tap it to > gain pool? No, it is still in play and able to be tapped. [ quoted text not captured ]

henrik

On May 4, 8:08 pm, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote: > Kevin Walsh wrote: > > This is a query about the meaning of the word "usable" in the card > > text. Is it possible to play the card when you have 0 VPs and wait > > until you've gained a VP before gaining pool from it? > > No. Is "usable" and "playable" always interchangable? Without your answer, I've always figured that Momentum's Edge wasn't playable unless you had a VP but I'm not sure if I'd ruled that way considering the text on Elysium: The Arboretum. There is a small difference in wording ("when" vs "if"), is that what makes Elysium playable even though you don't control a Camarilla vampire in combat with another Camarilla vampire? (I'm fairly sure that would be possible.) Elysium: The Arboretum Type: Master Master: unique location. Only usable when a Camarilla vampire you control is in combat with another Camarilla vampire. You may tap this card before range is determined to end combat. Any Camarilla vampire can call a referendum to burn this card as a +1 stealth political action. [ quoted text not captured ]

LSJ

henrik wrote: > On May 4, 8:08 pm, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote: >> Kevin Walsh wrote: >>> This is a query about the meaning of the word "usable" in the card >>> text. Is it possible to play the card when you have 0 VPs and wait >>> until you've gained a VP before gaining pool from it? >> No. > > Is "usable" and "playable" always interchangable? No. Context is used. > Without your answer, I've always figured that Momentum's Edge wasn't > playable unless you had a VP but I'm not sure if I'd ruled that way > considering the text on Elysium: The Arboretum. > There is a small difference in wording ("when" vs "if"), is that what > makes Elysium playable even though you don't control a Camarilla > vampire in combat with another Camarilla vampire? (I'm fairly sure > that would be possible.) Combat never occurs in the master phase, so that couldn't be it. Context. [ quoted text not captured ]