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[LSJ] Clan Loyalty Vs M1KF question

2 messages from 2 participants · 29 March 2004
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Stone

If an action is modified by Clan Loyalty : 1/ Can the action only be masked by a vampire of the same clan? 2/ With the 2003-05-19 RTR ruling on mask, would the CL effect carry over the mask, reversing the specifing ruling on clan loyalty? rulings and card text included below for reference. thanks, Stone Latest ruling on Clan Loyalty: Modifies only the acting minion, not the action, and would not carry over through a Mask of a Thousand Faces modifier. [TOM 19951214] Clan Loyalty card text : Clan Loyalty [DS:C2, FN:PG] Cardtype: Action Modifier Cost: 1 blood Only usable when this vampire is successfully blocked by a vampire of the same clan (play before combat). Cancel the block and combat. The action continues as normal, and no vampires of that clan may block the acting vampire for the remainder of the turn. 2003-05-19 RTR ruling : Mask of a Thousand Faces (REVERSAL): All effects that had been applied to the action or the acting minion carry over as if they had been applied with the Masker as the acting minion. The standing rule that "Mask cannot be used to mask an action if the Masking vampire is not capable of taking that action, nor if any action modifiers have been played on this action that could not have been played if the Masking vampire were the acting minion. (Not counting blood that has already been spent.)" still applies, and it applies to other effects as well. So if Backways is tapped to give the acting Gangrel a stealth, then non-Gangrel cannot mask the action. If Redirection is used at inferior by a 7 capacity vampire, then vampires with capacity of 7 or more cannot mask the action (since they are not younger than the reacting vampire). And so on. Draba or Veiled Sight vs. Mask of a Thousand Faces (REVERSAL): The stealth reduction of Draba and Veiled Sight carries over at the same level as before the mask. The two effects can be treated as equivalent to "-X stealth" where X is (was) the current amount of stealth of the action, with the X unchanged by the play of the mask.

LSJ

Stone wrote: > If an action is modified by Clan Loyalty : > > 1/ Can the action only be masked by a vampire of the same clan? Yes. > 2/ With the 2003-05-19 RTR ruling on mask, would the CL effect carry over > the mask, reversing the specifing ruling on clan loyalty? > rulings and card text included below for reference. Yes. (REVERSAL) I'll remove the outdated entry from the rulings list. Thanks. [ quoted text not captured ] -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/