Free States : Texas - Tournament Winning Deck

Fourteen Methuselahs gathered in Houston, Texas for a weekend of V:TES, beer, tequila, and V:TES. Two tournaments were played, one sanctioned constructed, and the other sanctioned draft. Much fun was had by all, and those involved may post more as time permits. Free States : Texas Houston, Texas December 6th, 2003 14 players Tournament Winning Deck by Robyn Tatu Deck Name: Grand Toreador Created By: Robyn Tatu Description: Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 29, Max: 43, Avg: 9.17) ---------------------------------------------- 3 Alexandra ANI AUS CEL dom PRE 11, Toreador, Inner Circle 2 Madame Guil AUS CEL for pot PRE ser 10, Toreador, Justicar 1 Francois Villon AUS CEL chi obf pot PRE 10, Toreador, Prince 2 Annabelle Triabell AUS CEL dom for PRE 9, Toreador, Primogen 1 Fleurdumal AUS cel DEM PRE tha 8, Toreador, Prince 2 Suzanne Kadim aus CEL dom obf PRE 7, Toreador 1 Lucina AUS cel PRE pro 7, Toreador, Primogen Library: (90 cards) ------------------- Master (14 cards) 1 Aching Beauty 1 Art Museum 7 Minion Tap 1 Society Hunting Ground 4 Toreador Grand Ball Action (9 cards) 1 Aranthebes, The Immortal 2 Enchant Kindred 2 Fifth Tradition: Hospitality, The 1 Form of Corruption 1 Judgment: Camarilla Segregation 1 Sixth Tradition: Destruction, The 1 Social Charm Action Modifier (15 cards) 1 Aire of Elation 2 Bewitching Oration 5 Change of Target 1 Scorn of Adonis 2 Seduction 4 Voter Captivation Political Action (16 cards) 2 Anarchist Uprising 1 Ancient Influence 2 Ancilla Empowerment 2 Banishment 1 Camarilla Exemplary 1 Consanguineous Boon 2 Dramatic Upheaval 2 Kine Resources Contested 1 Parity Shift 1 Snipe Hunt 1 Year of Fortune Reaction (19 cards) 3 Forced Awakening 2 Obedience 4 Second Tradition: Domain, The 1 Telepathic Counter 7 Telepathic Misdirection 2 Wake with Evening's Freshness Combat (14 cards) 4 Flash 10 Majesty Retainer (3 cards) 3 Resplendent Protector

> Free States : Texas > Houston, Texas > December 6th, 2003 > 14 players > > Tournament Winning Deck by Robyn Tatu > > Deck Name: Grand Toreador > Created By: Robyn Tatu > > Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 29, Max: 43, Avg: 9.17) > ---------------------------------------------- > 3 Alexandra ANI AUS CEL dom PRE 11, Toreador, Inner Circle > 2 Madame Guil AUS CEL for pot PRE ser 10, Toreador, Justicar > 1 Francois Villon AUS CEL chi obf pot PRE 10, Toreador, Prince > 2 Annabelle Triabell AUS CEL dom for PRE 9, Toreador, Primogen > 1 Fleurdumal AUS cel DEM PRE tha 8, Toreador, Prince > 2 Suzanne Kadim aus CEL dom obf PRE 7, Toreador > 1 Lucina AUS cel PRE pro 7, Toreador, Primogen > > Library: (90 cards) > ------------------- > Master (14 cards) > 1 Aching Beauty > 1 Art Museum > 7 Minion Tap > 1 Society Hunting Ground > 4 Toreador Grand Ball [rest of deck snipped] How do you survive in your playgroup with *NO* blood dolls? I just can't figure! Your playgroup is not competitive. If you take a single bleed for 4 (which can happen in the first few turns before any other vamp is out) or damages from a vote, then you will never recover. Except maybe in you highly competitive playgroup. Yeah you must be right, I never played this damn game in the first place. I'm just here to bug people and tell them how lame their decks are. That's great. Show everyone how ridiculous you are. Continue to play in your 5 year-old-friendly environmment, where no one bleeds you for 6 and no one ever plays fortitude. GOD, I just LOVE this newsgroup! ;D Kevin M., Prince of Henderson, NV (USA) "Know your enemy, and know yourself; in one-thousand battles you shall never be in peril." -- Sun Tzu, *The Art of War* "Contentment... Complacency... Catastrophe!" -- Joseph Chevalier

"Kevin M." <you...@imaspammer.org> wrote in message news:0cFBb.30020$o9.16235@fed1read07... [snip] > > Tournament Winning Deck by Robyn Tatu > [rest of deck snipped] > > How do you survive in your playgroup with *NO* blood dolls? I just can't > figure! Your playgroup is not competitive. Which playgroup are you referring to, Kevin? The tourney was in Houston, Robyn's in Atlanta, many Austinites were there too. And Robyn's pretty damn competitive. Of course, the Houston metagame is grapple-blur beatdown of your prey and then get ousted after crippling them, from my experience. Which to me would be anti-competitive. Different from not competitive. -Mike Ooi

"Kevin M." <you...@imaspammer.org> wrote in message news:0cFBb.30020$o9.16235@fed1read07... [ quoted text not captured ] ........ ok i'll bite. BACK UP THE TRUCK Attendees: David Tatu 2-time tournament winner Robyn Tatu 6-time tournament winner Jeff Thompson 5-time tournament winner Ethan Burrow 6-time tournament winner David Cherryholmes 2-time tournament winner Oscar Garza 1-time tournament winner TJ Fullington 2-time storyline tournament winner Norm Brown 2-time tournament winner Chad Brinkely Howard DeCastro Albert Chang 1-time tournament winner Brian Reed Kelly Nine Slade Stults This is a crew of seasoned veterans of the game, the majority with 1 tournament win or more. 7 of which have attended the NAC at least once. 2 of which have made Continental Championship finals at least once. Competitive? You bet your ass. > > If you take a single bleed for 4 (which can happen in the first few turns > before any other vamp is out) or damages from a vote, then you will never > recover. Except maybe in you highly competitive playgroup. You did see the Minion Taps, right? > > Yeah you must be right, I never played this damn game in the first place. > I'm just here to bug people and tell them how lame their decks are. > > That's great. Show everyone how ridiculous you are. Continue to play in > your 5 year-old-friendly environmment, where no one bleeds you for 6 and no > one ever plays fortitude. Why don't you come down to Texas sometime. We'll show you how "5-year-old-friendly" we are. > > GOD, I just LOVE this newsgroup! ;D Now Kevin, I know you know Robyn and are probably just screwin around. I just jumped when I read "Your playgroup is not competitive" because there were a lot of Texas kids there and well, them's fightin words. > Kevin M., Prince of Henderson, NV (USA) Oscar Garza Prince of College Station, Tx The Crazy Aggie

> > How do you survive in your playgroup with *NO* blood dolls? I just can't > > figure! Your playgroup is not competitive. Kevin, I challenge you to a dual, to the death!! How dare you insult Robyn!! I will kill you!! arghh... I forgot, I am a Pacifist, that sucks, So really, what's up? I am assuming there is implied sarcasm here? David

Oscar Garza wrote: > ......... ok i'll bite. YHBT. YHL. HAND. --Colin McGuigan

shang wrote: > Which playgroup are you referring to, Kevin? The tourney was in Houston, > Robyn's in Atlanta, many Austinites were there too. And Robyn's pretty damn > competitive. Just so everyone is on the same page, Kevin's post was r.g.t-c.j meta group humor... Peter D Bakija pd...@lightlink.com http://www.lightlink.com/pdb6 "The gun is good! The penis is bad!" -Zardoz

> > Library: (90 cards) > > ------------------- > > Master (14 cards) > > 1 Aching Beauty > > 1 Art Museum > > 7 Minion Tap > > 1 Society Hunting Ground > > 4 Toreador Grand Ball > > [rest of deck snipped] > > How do you survive in your playgroup with *NO* blood dolls? I just can't > figure! Your playgroup is not competitive. uh, or maybe it is did you miss the 7 minion taps that he has? > > If you take a single bleed for 4 (which can happen in the first few turns > before any other vamp is out) or damages from a vote, then you will never > recover. Except maybe in you highly competitive playgroup. mmmm sarcasm! > Yeah you must be right, I never played this damn game in the first place. > I'm just here to bug people and tell them how lame their decks are. what the hell are you talking about? do you have something stuck in your rectum? did you step on some tacks then sit in some gum today? > That's great. Show everyone how ridiculous you are. Continue to play in > your 5 year-old-friendly environmment, where no one bleeds you for 6 and no > one ever plays fortitude. > > GOD, I just LOVE this newsgroup! ;D > so do i, because it lets smarmy people mouth off with no provokation whatsoever what's the matter? did the owner of the deck run over your dog or something? you need to chill out and relax, and learn to accept the fact that just because you are a prince, it doesnt make you right Kyle Burt, Prince of Harrisburg, PA [usa] -"i have quotes too!", me -"i make irrational conclusions based on the fact that i love blood dolls and that someone doesnt use them! i then procede to show how mature i am by acting like a 5 year old!" - guess

David Wilson wrote: > So really, what's up? I am assuming there is implied sarcasm here? Meta group humor. There was a thread that turned ugly a month or so ago that followed pretty much the same discussion path that Kevin laid out for us. Just a gag. But apparently, I'm the only one who got it... [ quoted text not captured ]

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:52:21 -0500, Peter D Bakija <pd...@lightlink.com> scrawled: >David Wilson wrote: > >> So really, what's up? I am assuming there is implied sarcasm here? > >Meta group humor. There was a thread that turned ugly a month or so ago that >followed pretty much the same discussion path that Kevin laid out for us. > >Just a gag. > >But apparently, I'm the only one who got it... i laughed too! :) salem domain:canberra http://www.geocities.com/salem_christ.geo/vtes.htm

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:52:21 -0500, Peter D Bakija <pd...@lightlink.com> wrote: >But apparently, I'm the only one who got it... You know I got it, but what's the point in re-cycling old flame wars, when there are so many new ones to be had? David Cherryholmes VEKN Prince of Durham, NC

Hey Robyn, I'm curious about three votes that you didn't include: PTO, Political Stranglehold, and Reigns of Power. If you considered these, I would enjoy hearing your thoughts on why you chose to skip them. And with all the big vamps, I was surprised to see no Info Highway, Zillah's Valley, or Dreams. How frequently did you get out more than 2 vamps? It looks like you play against weenie decks a lot! I can imagine that you beat up on the weenies a lot, and then switch places with their predator and get the VP. Congrats on the win - it's a cool deck! Ira P.S. Kevin, when you mentioned the lack of blood dolls, were you just joking, or did you fail to see the 7 minion taps?! In this sort of deck, I certainly agree with Robyn that minion taps are much better than blood dolls.

isaphrael wrote: > what the hell are you talking about? do you have something stuck in > your rectum? did you step on some tacks then sit in some gum today? <wipes spit take coffee off desk> It was a gag. Kevin was mirroring a recent discussion. For comedy purposes. Material. A-List, I'd point out. [ quoted text not captured ]

> <wipes spit take coffee off desk> > > It was a gag. Kevin was mirroring a recent discussion. For comedy purposes. > Material. A-List, I'd point out. > curses! foiled by my own ignorance! > > Peter D Bakija -KB, Prince of Harrisburg

Colin McGuigan <maguaSP...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > Oscar Garza wrote: >> ......... ok i'll bite. > > YHBT. YHL. HAND. To call my post a troll is the height of stuffiness! Sheesh! Can't we have any fun around here? At least Robyn and I are laughing about it. And maybe Cherryholmes. > --Colin McGuigan Kevin M., Prince of Henderson, NV (USA) [ quoted text not captured ]

isaphrael <id77...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> > Library: (90 cards) >> > ------------------- >> > Master (14 cards) >> > 1 Aching Beauty >> > 1 Art Museum >> > 7 Minion Tap >> > 1 Society Hunting Ground >> > 4 Toreador Grand Ball >> >> [rest of deck snipped] >> >> How do you survive in your playgroup with *NO* blood dolls? I just >> can't figure! Your playgroup is not competitive. > > uh, or maybe it is > did you miss the 7 minion taps that he has? Read the newsgroup sometime. If you pay attention, you'll understand the humor. >> If you take a single bleed for 4 (which can happen in the first few >> turns before any other vamp is out) or damages from a vote, then you >> will never recover. Except maybe in you highly competitive >> playgroup. > > mmmm sarcasm! > >> Yeah you must be right, I never played this damn game in the first >> place. I'm just here to bug people and tell them how lame their >> decks are. > > what the hell are you talking about? do you have something stuck in > your rectum? did you step on some tacks then sit in some gum today? Are you just an asshole or were you born that way? Oh, I forgot, you don't read the newsgroup. My apologies. >> That's great. Show everyone how ridiculous you are. Continue to >> play in your 5 year-old-friendly environmment, where no one bleeds >> you for 6 and no one ever plays fortitude. >> >> GOD, I just LOVE this newsgroup! ;D > > so do i, because it lets smarmy people mouth off with no provokation > whatsoever > what's the matter? did the owner of the deck run over your dog or > something? Are you just an asshole or something? Oh, I forgot, you don't read the newsgroup. My apologies. > you need to chill out and relax, and learn to accept the fact that > just because you are a prince, it doesnt make you right Oh chill the fuck out yourself. Please. Just because YOU'RE insecure about being a Prince and YOU think that being a Prince makes people do what they do, stop sending that shit my way, asshole. > Kyle Burt, Prince of Harrisburg, PA [usa] > -"i have quotes too!", me > -"i make irrational conclusions based on the fact that i love blood > dolls and that someone doesnt use them! i then procede to show how > mature i am by acting like a 5 year old!" - guess Go fuck yourself, Kyle. [ quoted text not captured ]

Ira <ira...@yahoo.com> wrote: [Ira's deck analysis snipped] > Ira > > P.S. Kevin, when you mentioned the lack of blood dolls, were you just > joking, or did you fail to see the 7 minion taps?! In this sort of > deck, I certainly agree with Robyn that minion taps are much better > than blood dolls. For all the munchkins that started talking out of their asses without having purchased a fucking clue -- and for that cool guy Ira, who simply ASKED what this was all about -- here's the link to the highly amusing flamewar that I was spoofing: http://groups.google.com/groups?&selm=3f9008dc%240%248413%2479c14f64%40nan-n ewsreader-02.noos.net It was *easily* the funniest, laugh-out-loud thing I've seen here in all of 2003. And I guess some of you missed it. But that's OK! Just get a few beers, sit back, and enjoy the whole thread from beginning to end! :D [ quoted text not captured ]

Kevin M. wrote: > Read the newsgroup sometime. If you pay attention, you'll understand the > humor. "Inside jokes", especially lacking smilies, will inevitably be missed by many readers. No need to denigrate the readers who attributed sincerity to your post. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote: > Kevin M. wrote: >> Read the newsgroup sometime. If you pay attention, you'll >> understand the humor. > > "Inside jokes", especially lacking smilies, will inevitably be > missed by many readers. There *was* an ;D at the end of the post. If that wasn't enough for people to "get" the point, by remembering Reyda's humorfest last October, then fine. But, see, while Ira *ASKED* me what I meant, several people jumped the shark and started ranting without even knowing what the hell they were ranting about, and Kyle just acted like an asshole. > No need to denigrate the readers who attributed sincerity > to your post. I fail to see how "Read the newsgroup sometime. If you pay attention, you'll understand the humor" is denigrating, but I'll accept your point-of-view that someone may take it that way, as you just did. Oh well. Now Kyle, I *did* mean to be dengrating to him, since he deserved it. > LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. > Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: > http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/ Kevin M., Prince of Henderson, NV (USA) [ quoted text not captured ]

Kevin M. wrote: > LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote: >>No need to denigrate the readers who attributed sincerity >>to your post. > > I fail to see how "Read the newsgroup sometime. If you pay attention, > you'll understand the humor" is denigrating, but I'll accept your > point-of-view that someone may take it that way, as you just did. Oh well. Well, my perception may have been tainted by the conclusion of that post. :-) -- [ quoted text not captured ]

"Kevin M." <you...@imaspammer.org> wrote in message news:6D_Bb.2$J77.0@fed1read07... > LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote: > > Kevin M. wrote: > >> Read the newsgroup sometime. If you pay attention, you'll > >> understand the humor. > > > > "Inside jokes", especially lacking smilies, will inevitably be > > missed by many readers. > > There *was* an ;D at the end of the post. > > If that wasn't enough for people to "get" the point, by remembering Reyda's > humorfest last October, then fine. But, see, while Ira *ASKED* me what I > meant, several people jumped the shark and started ranting without even > knowing what the hell they were ranting about, and Kyle just acted like an > asshole. Even if you read the newsgroup from time to time, you may not be interested in reading *all of it*. Besides it, mimicking other people maybe fun if you understand what thos other people said in the first place. I didin't find anything funny in the thread, since you talk about lack of blood dools whereas Robyn's deck has massive pool gain in other forms (yeah minion tap for 10 is massive for me). Next time, try to use quotations when they are appropriate, since you loose much of the humor; plus other people can't even laugh with you =)

On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Kevin M. wrote: > At least Robyn and I are laughing about it. And maybe Cherryholmes. Well, it was hilarious the first time around, why not a second? David Cherryholmes Duke Radiology P.E.T. Facility (919) 684-7714 david.che...@duke.edu

Kevin M. wrote: > To call my post a troll is the height of stuffiness! Sheesh! Can't we have > any fun around here? > > At least Robyn and I are laughing about it. And maybe Cherryholmes. Who said trolling can't be fun? --Colin McGuigan

"Kevin M." <you...@imaspammer.org> wrote in message news:2UZBb.34676$o9.16623@fed1read07... > Ira <ira...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > [Ira's deck analysis snipped] > > > Ira > > > > P.S. Kevin, when you mentioned the lack of blood dolls, were you just > > joking, or did you fail to see the 7 minion taps?! In this sort of > > deck, I certainly agree with Robyn that minion taps are much better > > than blood dolls. > > For all the munchkins that started talking out of their asses without having > purchased a fucking clue -- and for that cool guy Ira, who simply ASKED what > this was all about -- here's the link to the highly amusing flamewar that I > was spoofing: But Kevin, you still haven't told me which playgroup you were referring to. I don't understand what is happening. I'm cold and frightened, and wolves are trying to eat my medicine. Because really, I was hoping that you were slamming Texas. We Texans get all excited when someone insults Texas. It gets us hopping up and down, clicking our spurs together, and firing our six-guns in the air. And I really need to get excited. }8^P]+: -M

"Kevin M." <you...@imaspammer.org> wrote in message news:<2UZBb.34676$o9.16623@fed1read07>... > Ira <ira...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > [ snip] > > > > P.S. Kevin, when you mentioned the lack of blood dolls, were you just > > joking, or did you fail to see the 7 minion taps?! In this sort of > > deck, I certainly agree with Robyn that minion taps are much better > > than blood dolls. > > For all the munchkins that started talking out of their asses without having > purchased a fucking clue -- and for that cool guy Ira, who simply ASKED what > this was all about -- here's the link to the highly amusing flamewar that I > was spoofing: > > [snip] > > Kevin M., Prince of Henderson, NV (USA) Gee Kevin, I'm really glad that you're back... it's so much fun to read your posts. You call people names, use a bunch of four-letter words, and insult people you don't know. Thanks for sharing... Cheers, Howard PS That's all sarcasm for anyone that doesn't know english or missed the implied meaning. BTW - I did smile a bit after first reading your original post. However, it WAS a bit confusing (maybe a few more smiley faces would help...). AND, then you lost all of your "style points" when you started slaming other people. Is all that really necessary? Maybe I should ask how old you are... that might explain a few things. ;o) (does the little "smiling wink" at the end make it all funny?)

> Read the newsgroup sometime. If you pay attention, you'll understand the > humor. > Are you just an asshole or were you born that way? Oh, I forgot, you don't > read the newsgroup. > > My apologies. > no, of course i never read the newsgroup, because i obviously dont post on it and dont even have an account so who are you talking to? > Are you just an asshole or something? Oh, I forgot, you don't read the > newsgroup. > > My apologies. > > Oh chill the fuck out yourself. Please. > > Just because YOU'RE insecure about being a Prince and YOU think that being a > Prince makes people do what they do, stop sending that shit my way, asshole. > > > Go fuck yourself, Kyle. > yeah, way to show your maturity please, insult me some more, big boy you know how i like it! i just have 1 more thing to say to you: EAT ME -KB, Prince of Harrisburg

The Lasombra wrote... > > Fourteen Methuselahs gathered in Houston, Texas for a weekend of > V:TES, beer, tequila, and V:TES. Two tournaments were played, one > sanctioned constructed, and the other sanctioned draft. Much fun was > had by all, and those involved may post more as time permits. > > Free States : Texas > Houston, Texas > December 6th, 2003 > 14 players > > Tournament Winning Deck by Robyn Tatu > (snip cool deck) I'm glad to hear that everyone had a good time. I keep getting e-mails from people that were happy with how it all turned out... Did that have anything to do with the jagermeister, tequila, rum, and beer??? :o) I had a great time during the tournaments ...despite feeling a little fuzzy in the head from the night before. Maybe next year we can just stay up from Friday night through Sunday and skip those silly little naps we took. ;o) The tournament was pretty challenging because every table had players that have been around the VTES scene for quite a while and the decks I saw were all fairly hardcore. I definitely learned a lot just from watching what others were doing and how their decks ran. It was like watching VTES 101. :o) I was a bit surprised that there wasn't as much combat as some of our other events. Maybe our meta-game is shifting away from combat? ...but now we have the Black Hand set to work with... (rubs hands together while attempting an evil laugh). The draft turned out much better than any other draft I've been in. I really like the fact that we used preconstructed decks and then just added a few cards to it. It was soooo much faster than drafting everything. And splitting it up over two days was also really cool. That way we were able to do a fairly quick draft one night, followed by pick-up games and socializing, and then were ready to settle into the draft tournament the next day. I recommend something like that for all our future draft events (when the situation allows for it). Chad Brinkley won the draft event, right? What deck was he playing? And I want to thank Cherryholmes, David, Robyn, Jeff, and Norm for taking the time to fly/drive across the country for a Houston event. Having you guys there really made it just that much better! I hope it was all worth it and that we'll see you all again sometime soon. :o) ...If only we could have used some of those wacky Black Hand cards that are now legal in tournaments. I can't wait for the next one! Norm - It's pretty funny that we both brought our entire collection and then got to involved with everything else and forgot to do any trading with one another. Doh! Next time we'll trade BEFORE the tequila. ;o) Cheers, Howard PS I'd love to hear more about what you all thought of the event and any interesting stories or comments you may have. What was that "tequila game" all about? Is that why there was so much hugging and "I LOVE you guys!" going around late night? ...and what happened in the hot tub after I left?!?

On 11 Dec 2003, HD wrote: > I'm glad to hear that everyone had a good time. I keep getting > e-mails from people that were happy with how it all turned out... Did > that have anything to do with the jagermeister, tequila, rum, and > beer??? :o) Mmmmhmmm.... jagermeister. > The tournament was pretty challenging because every table had players > that have been around the VTES scene for quite a while and the decks I > saw were all fairly hardcore. I definitely learned a lot just from > watching what others were doing and how their decks ran. It was like > watching VTES 101. :o) Yeah. First lesson being: don't trust your predator to not oust you. I don't want to involve any names, but *especially* not when his initials are Jeff Thompson. :) <--------- no, really... it's a *smiley*. > I was a bit surprised that there wasn't as much combat as some of our > other events. Don't blame me, man.... I did my part. And his part, and his part, and.... > And I want to thank Cherryholmes, David, Robyn, Jeff, and Norm for > taking the time to fly/drive across the country for a Houston event. > Having you guys there really made it just that much better! I hope it > was all worth it and that we'll see you all again sometime soon. :o) It was my pleasure. I really wanted to stay another day, and that's saying something after 2 full days of V:TES. > PS I'd love to hear more about what you all thought of the event and > any interesting stories or comments you may have. What was that Xzealot is a snuggler. ;) [ quoted text not captured ]

"David Cherryholmes" <david.che...@duke.edu> wrote in message news:Pine.GSO.4.21.03121...@petsparc.duhs.duke.edu... > Yeah. First lesson being: don't trust your predator to not oust > you. I don't want to involve any names, but *especially* not when his > initials are Jeff Thompson. :) <--------- no, really... it's a *smiley*. Hmmmm, I think I've heard something about that lesson before. I don't think it was restricted to particular sets of initials, though. ;-) Josh "perhaps you think you're being treated unfairly...?"

On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Joshua Duffin wrote: > Hmmmm, I think I've heard something about that lesson before. I don't > think it was restricted to particular sets of initials, though. ;-) Yeah, I know. I even knew it was a stupid thing to do at the time, and I said "You know, Jeff, this is a really dumb thing to do. But you haven't broken a deal with me before, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt this time." And he knifed me. He knifed me for his 1 VP before my prey, who I was tapping out trying to trim back went on to win the table. I think, although he never said so explicitly, that Jeff figured Ethan was going to win that table regardless, so he took the VP he could get. Good play on his part, and no hard feelings. Er, I mean.... Dealbreaker! He's tricksy! We hates him! [ quoted text not captured ]

"HD" <hdma...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:c0922a66.0312...@posting.google.com... > The Lasombra wrote... > > > > Fourteen Methuselahs gathered in Houston, Texas for a weekend of > > V:TES, beer, tequila, and V:TES. Two tournaments were played, one > > sanctioned constructed, and the other sanctioned draft. Much fun was > > had by all, and those involved may post more as time permits. > > > > Free States : Texas > > Houston, Texas > > December 6th, 2003 > > 14 players > > > > Tournament Winning Deck by Robyn Tatu > > > (snip cool deck) > > I'm glad to hear that everyone had a good time. I keep getting > e-mails from people that were happy with how it all turned out... Did > that have anything to do with the jagermeister, tequila, rum, and > beer??? :o) Killer time. next time, more booze. and maybe some uppers for ethan (he used to be able to hang) ;) > > I had a great time during the tournaments ...despite feeling a little > fuzzy in the head from the night before. Maybe next year we can just > stay up from Friday night through Sunday and skip those silly little > naps we took. ;o) I'm all for a no sleep v:tes weekend i just need to build twice as many decks. > > The tournament was pretty challenging because every table had players > that have been around the VTES scene for quite a while and the decks I > saw were all fairly hardcore. I definitely learned a lot just from > watching what others were doing and how their decks ran. It was like > watching VTES 101. :o) definately lots of great players at this one, i had an awesome time. > > I was a bit surprised that there wasn't as much combat as some of our > other events. Maybe our meta-game is shifting away from combat? > ...but now we have the Black Hand set to work with... (rubs hands > together while attempting an evil laugh). > > The draft turned out much better than any other draft I've been in. I > really like the fact that we used preconstructed decks and then just > added a few cards to it. It was soooo much faster than drafting > everything. And splitting it up over two days was also really cool. > That way we were able to do a fairly quick draft one night, followed > by pick-up games and socializing, and then were ready to settle into > the draft tournament the next day. I recommend something like that > for all our future draft events (when the situation allows for it). > > Chad Brinkley won the draft event, right? What deck was he playing? > he was playing !malks, good man > And I want to thank Cherryholmes, David, Robyn, Jeff, and Norm for > taking the time to fly/drive across the country for a Houston event. > Having you guys there really made it just that much better! I hope it > was all worth it and that we'll see you all again sometime soon. :o) I second this, thanks for coming out yall. We should do this more often. > PS I'd love to hear more about what you all thought of the event and > any interesting stories or comments you may have. What was that > "tequila game" all about? Is that why there was so much hugging and > "I LOVE you guys!" going around late night? ...and what happened in > the hot tub after I left?!? Lots of good games. the "tequila game" happened late saturday when me and norm were in a 4 player. evertime i got the edge we took a shot. ended up taking 6-7 shots each in what seemed like no time at all. cuervo never went down smoother. surprisingly ethan didn't try to cuddle, maybe cuz i came to bed drunk laughing, and i farted, he gets pissy. as far as the hot tub goes.....i'm really pretty kinda sure i didn't do anything stupid... Oscar Garza Prince of College Station, Tx The Crazy Aggie

On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:53:47 -0500, David Cherryholmes <david.che...@duke.edu> scrawled: >On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Joshua Duffin wrote: > >> Hmmmm, I think I've heard something about that lesson before. I don't >> think it was restricted to particular sets of initials, though. ;-) > >Yeah, I know. I even knew it was a stupid thing to do at the time, and I >said "You know, Jeff, this is a really dumb thing to do. But you haven't >broken a deal with me before, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt >this time." And he knifed me. He knifed me for his 1 VP go jeff! yaaaay! (now, _twist_ the knife!) [ quoted text not captured ]

> > For all the munchkins that started talking out of their asses without having > purchased a fucking clue -- and for that cool guy Ira, who simply ASKED what > this was all about -- here's the link to the highly amusing flamewar that I > was spoofing: > > http://groups.google.com/groups?&selm=3f9008dc%240%248413%2479c14f64%40nan-n > ewsreader-02.noos.net > > It was *easily* the funniest, laugh-out-loud thing I've seen here in all of > 2003. And I guess some of you missed it. But that's OK! Just get a few > beers, sit back, and enjoy the whole thread from beginning to end! :D > see, now i understand the message in context i tend to not read flame posts, and was simply reacting what i saw was a knee-jerk, status-quo, and poorly considered reaction. [and responding in kind] :D and wow, that IS really funny so may i make a suggestion, and have one of us threaten physical violence? -KB, prince of Harrisburg

ira...@yahoo.com (Ira) wrote in message news:<500e74e.03121...@posting.google.com>... > Hey Robyn, > > I'm curious about three votes that you didn't include: PTO, Political > Stranglehold, and Reigns of Power. If you considered these, I would > enjoy hearing your thoughts on why you chose to skip them. Hey, Ira....! It's a tool box deck that suits my play style. It was my homage to a Lasombra-Jeff, Steve-Bucy-type monster-vampire deck. PTO, is over the top in this deck. Lacks subtleness....something. I don't want that kind of attention. The Ancilla/AnarchU are there to help keep rounds from timing out and appeal to greed. For the same reason (time outs) Political Stranglehold Hold is not included. I'd be interested to know if you or someone else finds Toreador GrandBall a liability. Although I owe some VP's, to the card - I wind up taking the action to remove it myself a good bit of the time. I'm slow on the influence, but again, I don't want to attract a lot of attention. Robyn Tatu [ quoted text not captured ]

> Er, I mean.... Dealbreaker! He's tricksy! We hates him! At least he didn't PTO your only vampire then immediately call an Ancient INfluence. Bastards, the whole lot of them... Fanboy

On 11 Dec 2003 19:24:01 -0800, texas...@yahoo.com (The Fanboy) scrawled: >> Er, I mean.... Dealbreaker! He's tricksy! We hates him! > >At least he didn't PTO your only vampire then immediately call an >Ancient INfluence. Bastards, the whole lot of them... that's beautiful. who did that? masterful play, really.... [ quoted text not captured ]

salem <salem_ch...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<bjkitv4jvusmm634a...@4ax.com>... > On 11 Dec 2003 19:24:01 -0800, texas...@yahoo.com (The Fanboy) > scrawled: > > >> Er, I mean.... Dealbreaker! He's tricksy! We hates him! > > > >At least he didn't PTO your only vampire then immediately call an > >Ancient INfluence. Bastards, the whole lot of them... > > that's beautiful. who did that? masterful play, really.... <raises tremulous talon> i've done that, though not on this particular occasion. It's a standard ploy for the Deck of Thin Cheese [thanks to Matt Stockton for the moniker]. [ quoted text not captured ]

"HD" <hdma...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:c0922a66.0312...@posting.google.com... > The Lasombra wrote... > > > > Fourteen Methuselahs gathered in Houston, Texas for a weekend of > > V:TES, beer, tequila, and V:TES. Two tournaments were played, one > > sanctioned constructed, and the other sanctioned draft. Much fun was > > had by all, and those involved may post more as time permits. > > > > Free States : Texas > > Houston, Texas > > December 6th, 2003 > > 14 players > > > > Tournament Winning Deck by Robyn Tatu > > > (snip cool deck) > > I'm glad to hear that everyone had a good time. I keep getting > e-mails from people that were happy with how it all turned out... Did > that have anything to do with the jagermeister, tequila, rum, and > beer??? :o) That was beer? I couldn't taste anything after my mutli-night binge of jaeger, rum, and tequila. I believe the secret word for the weekend was "Moderation", and did we keep it secret. > I had a great time during the tournaments ...despite feeling a little > fuzzy in the head from the night before. Maybe next year we can just > stay up from Friday night through Sunday and skip those silly little > naps we took. ;o) How far is Columbia from Houston? :) > The tournament was pretty challenging because every table had players > that have been around the VTES scene for quite a while and the decks I > saw were all fairly hardcore. I definitely learned a lot just from > watching what others were doing and how their decks ran. It was like > watching VTES 101. :o) I felt like I was playing VTES 911. :) > I was a bit surprised that there wasn't as much combat as some of our > other events. Maybe our meta-game is shifting away from combat? > ...but now we have the Black Hand set to work with... (rubs hands > together while attempting an evil laugh). > > The draft turned out much better than any other draft I've been in. I > really like the fact that we used preconstructed decks and then just > added a few cards to it. It was soooo much faster than drafting > everything. And splitting it up over two days was also really cool. > That way we were able to do a fairly quick draft one night, followed > by pick-up games and socializing, and then were ready to settle into > the draft tournament the next day. I recommend something like that > for all our future draft events (when the situation allows for it). It really made deck tweaking easier. > Chad Brinkley won the draft event, right? What deck was he playing? > > And I want to thank Cherryholmes, David, Robyn, Jeff, and Norm for > taking the time to fly/drive across the country for a Houston event. > Having you guys there really made it just that much better! I hope it > was all worth it and that we'll see you all again sometime soon. :o) That was so much fun. Now if we can have another in March then that would be awesome! > ...If only we could have used some of those wacky Black Hand cards > that are now legal in tournaments. I can't wait for the next one! > > Norm - It's pretty funny that we both brought our entire collection > and then got to involved with everything else and forgot to do any > trading with one another. Doh! Next time we'll trade BEFORE the > tequila. ;o) I needed the excercise of hauling too many cards around 3 different hotel rooms. > Cheers, > Howard > > PS I'd love to hear more about what you all thought of the event and > any interesting stories or comments you may have. What was that > "tequila game" all about? Is that why there was so much hugging and > "I LOVE you guys!" going around late night? ...and what happened in > the hot tub after I left?!? I don't remember much about the tequila game except that Oscar kept handing me shots and saying "I love this guy". I don't think I could talk at that point and thinking had stopped hours before. There was a lot of emotion in the air. I think it was Jeff's cologne that had some effect. :) I don't know anything about the hottub except I didn't wake up there. -- Comments Welcome, Norman S. Brown, Jr. XZealot Archon of the Swamp

"David Cherryholmes" <david.che...@duke.edu> wrote in message news:Pine.GSO.4.21.03121...@petsparc.duhs.duke.edu... > On 11 Dec 2003, HD wrote: > > > I'm glad to hear that everyone had a good time. I keep getting > > e-mails from people that were happy with how it all turned out... Did > > that have anything to do with the jagermeister, tequila, rum, and > > beer??? :o) > > Mmmmhmmm.... jagermeister. Jager and VTES... an instant classic! > > The tournament was pretty challenging because every table had players > > that have been around the VTES scene for quite a while and the decks I > > saw were all fairly hardcore. I definitely learned a lot just from > > watching what others were doing and how their decks ran. It was like > > watching VTES 101. :o) > > Yeah. First lesson being: don't trust your predator to not oust > you. I don't want to involve any names, but *especially* not when his > initials are Jeff Thompson. :) <--------- no, really... it's a *smiley*. > > > I was a bit surprised that there wasn't as much combat as some of our > > other events. > > Don't blame me, man.... I did my part. And his part, and his part, > and.... I feel the same way. Although the smack talk was at an all time high. > > And I want to thank Cherryholmes, David, Robyn, Jeff, and Norm for > > taking the time to fly/drive across the country for a Houston event. > > Having you guys there really made it just that much better! I hope it > > was all worth it and that we'll see you all again sometime soon. :o) > > It was my pleasure. I really wanted to stay another day, and that's > saying something after 2 full days of V:TES. Curses! Foiled by my job. I would have stayed but work on Monday was rough enough as it was. > > PS I'd love to hear more about what you all thought of the event and > > any interesting stories or comments you may have. What was that > > Xzealot is a snuggler. ;) Once you get the goatee in the ear, You're HOOKED! Mmmm, Abe Lincoln, Stone-Cold Steve Austin, Cherryholmes, Count Von Count... [ quoted text not captured ]

"shang" <sh...@removethistexas.net> wrote in message news:3fd8ae19$0$14967$61fe...@news.rcn.com... > Because really, I was hoping that you were slamming Texas. We Texans get all > excited when someone insults Texas. It gets us hopping up and down, clicking > our spurs together, and firing our six-guns in the air. Hop, hop *click click* Bang Bang! It was all just a joke!?! Damn. And I just deployed the 6th fleet...... A duck! Get it!? Why not you idiots?? -Brian <who only started rereading the newsgroup to get the community's input on our event and was thorouhly tricked by the joke>

"The Fanboy" <texas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:f99d61c5.03121...@posting.google.com... [ quoted text not captured ] Who? What? Why's everyone looking at Stansislava? Oh yeah..... I'm still trying to cleanse myself after that bit of filthy filthiness. I do have to stand up for Jeff; he did call a Con Boon for me (his prey) to gain 4 pool to honor a deal from something like 5 turns before. Kudos. -Brian