(VTES) Contesting oneself...

> > What happens when I play a second Charnas when I have already played > > one in another minion ? > They are both contested. Ok > > Yes, they are contested, but what can I do at the next untap phase ? > You may yield either or both. > You may pay a pool to not yield either or both. Woah, wait a second. I thought it was that cards played on a vampire, regardless of the player who played the card, were controlled by the vampire the card was on. In this case, Charnas would be controlled by the vampire Charnas was on. Since Charnas is controlled by that vamp and that vamp is controlled by another player, it would stand to reason that the other player also controlled Charnas (whether s/he wanted to or not). So wouldn't it also be that other players decision whether or not s/he wanted to yield a copy of Charnas; each player deciding for the copy they controlled? Sorrow --- "Are they dead?" - Pugsly "Does it matter?" - Wednesday

Sorrow wrote: > > > > What happens when I play a second Charnas when I have already played > > > one in another minion ? > > > Yes, they are contested, but what can I do at the next untap phase ? > > You may yield either or both. > > You may pay a pool to not yield either or both. > > Woah, wait a second. I thought it was that cards played on a vampire, > regardless of the player who played the card, were controlled by the > vampire the card was on. In this case, Charnas would be controlled by > the vampire Charnas was on. Since Charnas is controlled by that vamp > and that vamp is controlled by another player, it would stand to reason > that the other player also controlled Charnas (whether s/he wanted to > or not). So wouldn't it also be that other players decision whether or > not s/he wanted to yield a copy of Charnas; each player deciding for > the copy they controlled? Yes. The Methuselah controlling the "victim" vampire chooses whether to contest Charnas or yield. If that same Methuselah is the controller of the "victim" of the second Charnas, she can choose to yield both copies at the same time. If someone else is the controller of the second Charnas, then the contest continues until one Methuselah yields. The other copy will be "won" by the other Methuselah on her next untap phase, after the victim vampire untaps. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

> Yes. The Methuselah controlling the "victim" vampire chooses whether to > contest Charnas or yield. If that same Methuselah is the controller of > the "victim" of the second Charnas, she can choose to yield both > copies at the same time. > > If someone else is the controller of the second Charnas, then the contest > continues until one Methuselah yields. The other copy will be "won" by > the other Methuselah on her next untap phase, after the victim vampire > untaps. > > -- > LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. > Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: > http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/ Oups, I misunderstood something, or what ? Who controls the Charnas ? The Matthusalem who played it or the Mattusalem who recieved it ?

[ quoted text not captured ] Minion cards (like Charnas) are controlled by the controller of the minion they are on. Minion cards not played on minions (like Army of Rats) are controlled by the Methuselah who played them. Master cards are controlled by the Methuselah who played them. [ quoted text not captured ]