[LSJ] Strike:Combat Ends, Strike: Dodge

Hi, do "Strike: Combat" ends and "Strike:Dodge" count as hand strikes? Or is it impossible to dodge after an Immortal Grapple has been played? Thx&Bye Philipp

Philipp Helle wrote: > > Hi, > > do "Strike: Combat" ends and "Strike:Dodge" count as hand strikes? Not unless they also do damage based on the striking minion's hand strikes. > Or is it impossible to dodge after an Immortal Grapple has been played? It is impossible to strike with anything other than a hand strike after an immortal grapple is played (until the following round, of course). -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

Philipp Helle wrote: > do "Strike: Combat" ends and "Strike:Dodge" count as hand strikes? > Or is it impossible to dodge after an Immortal Grapple has been played? Strike: Combat Ends and Strike: Dodge are not hand strikes. p 41 of CE rulebook--(6.4.5): "Hand Strikes: The default strike is a hand strike. When a minion strikes with a hand strike at close range, he does an amount of damage equal to his strength to the opposing minion. Minions have a default strength of 1." S:CE and S:D don't do this, and thus aren't hand strikes. Pretty much the whole point of Immortal Grapple is that it stops S:CE and Strike Dodge. Peter D Bakija PD...@bigplanet.com http://www.myplanet.net/pdb6 "I need a doctor, kinda, sorta. What's wrong with me? He said there's a skid mark on my aorta and there's no remedy." -The Donnas

>> Hi, >> >> do "Strike: Combat" ends and "Strike:Dodge" count as hand strikes? > >Not unless they also do damage based on the striking minion's hand strikes. Yep. And don't forget that if it wasn't for errata, you could use a Stutter-Step under an Immortal Grapple (since it is both a hand strike *and* a dodge). Halcyan 2