I looked at Gypsies. The card is alright except for the
playing cost. Why don't I just use a Earth Control or,
better yet, Form of Mist instead?
Has anybody found a meaningful use for that one (other than
decorating your room)?
--
"Live Life with Heart."
Alan Kwan kw...@cs.cornell.edu
I'm not sure if this has been answered before:
When do I have to declare the target of a strike?
During strike declaration, or during strike resolution?
(This applies to strikes at retainers and equipments.)
If former, does this mean that I cannot destroy a
Disguised Flamethrower?
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I've got another question along the same lines:
If I choose my strike to be Canine Horde do I have to decide if it is at
greater or lesser before or after my opponent has the opportunity to
choose their strike and play any disguised weapons?
I just made a deck quite recently encorporating form of mist. If you
attempt an action at stealth, and your opponent plays some intercept, If
you have some more stealth and form of mist in your hand than you can
enter combat, play form of mist and pick up your action where you left off
and at greater protean at +1 stealth. You get to keep all your stealth
from your original attempt and your opponent does not get their reaction
cards causing them to burn more (if they have them) or just letting you
through. Earth control isn't great, but if you play a protean deck (like
I do) and don't play with any or very little obfuscate. Or if you are
playing against someone with a killer intercept deck you have one more
action modifier to give you stealth. None of my cards will be used for
wallpaper when DS comes out because I'll be using them in my card sleeves
to back all my cards so all the card backs correspond.
kw...@cs.cornell.edu (Alan Kwan) writes
>I looked at Gypsies. The card is alright except for the
>playing cost. Why don't I just use a Earth Control or,
>better yet, Form of Mist instead?
Well, because the Gypsies get to keep bleeding every turn. Library size
is a limitation, especially with an untap deck. Sure the Gypsies are
often not a good deal, but then they are only one card to discard. They
don't prohibit you from using the Gangrel untap spoilers, either.
Granted the Gangrel untap spoilers are too good, but that's a poor basis
for evaluating other Gangrel cards. This group seems to be eagerly
designing broken Earth Meld decks, so I imagine fixes for that card are
now going to become obligatory.
Curt Adams (curt...@aol.com)
kw...@cs.cornell.edu (Alan Kwan) writes:
>I looked at Gypsies. The card is alright except for the
>playing cost. Why don't I just use a Earth Control or,
>better yet, Form of Mist instead?>Has anybody found a meaningful use for that one (other than
>decorating your room)?
Yes. Since I don't always have an extra blood to spend, or a vampire with
superior Protean, or a particular card in my hand, the Gypsies' permanent
+1 stealth comes in quite handy. Even if I never use them, the threat is
often enough to prevent my Prey from blocking the random hunt or rescue or
vote, especially once the Gypsies are equipped with a Laptop.
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kw...@cs.cornell.edu (Alan Kwan) writes:
>I'm not sure if this has been answered before:
>When do I have to declare the target of a strike?
>During strike declaration, or during strike resolution?
>(This applies to strikes at retainers and equipments.)
The target is declared with the declaration of the strike (applies
to targetting retainers with Ranged damage, as well as to Stealing/Destroying
Equipment/Weapons).
>If former, does this mean that I cannot destroy a
>Disguised Flamethrower?
Yes. (Unless the FT was inferiorly disguised and you are the blocking minion).
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In article l...@gullveig.cs.cornell.edu, kw...@cs.cornell.edu (Alan Kwan) writes:
>
> I looked at Gypsies. The card is alright except for the
> playing cost. Why don't I just use a Earth Control or,
> better yet, Form of Mist instead?
>
> Has anybody found a meaningful use for that one (other than
> decorating your room)?
>> --
> "Live Life with Heart."
>
> Alan Kwan kw...@cs.cornell.edu
I have found the gypies to be very useful against prey that use permanent intercept. It is esp useful in combination with the backways becasue if your prey only has one intercepter they can't block both your vamp and the gypsies(or a few earth controls
or form of mist have the same effect). I think the cost is fair when you consider
that stealth is not the major ability of the gangrel and the only other card with a
perm +1 stealth is a 10 blood vamp (I forget her name).
Both earth control and form of mist are one shoot cards where as gypsies have perm
stealth. Also gypsies give you an extra action each round. If you are not in
a position to defend the gypsies or your prey has lots of auspex it is proable not worth the cost, just be smart and don't play it.
Steven Bauer
Biomech8 <biom...@aol.com> wrote:
>If I choose my strike to be Canine Horde do I have to decide if it is at
>greater or lesser before or after my opponent has the opportunity to
>choose their strike and play any disguised weapons?
You decide whether you are using the superior or inferior ability of a
discipline as you play the card, so would have to decide which version
you were using when playing it as a strike.
Tom Wylie rec.games.trading-cards.* Network Representative for
aa...@cats.ucsc.edu Wizards of the Coast, Inc.
Biomech8 <biom...@aol.com> wrote:
>...If>you have some more stealth and form of mist in your hand than you can
>enter combat, play form of mist and pick up your action where you left off
>and at greater protean at +1 stealth. You get to keep all your stealth
>from your original attempt and your opponent does not get their reaction>cards causing them to burn more (if they have them)...
This is not correct. Reaction cards remain in effect just as long as
action modifiers do; note that you are continuing the action, not starting
it over, at +1 stealth.
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aa...@cats.ucsc.edu (Thomas R Wylie) wrote:
> Biomech8 <biom...@aol.com> wrote:
> >...If you have some more stealth and form of mist in your hand than
> >you can enter combat, play form of mist and pick up your action where
> >you left off and at greater protean at +1 stealth. You get to keep
> >all your stealth from your original attempt and your opponent does not
> >get their reaction cards causing them to burn more (if they have them)...> This is not correct. Reaction cards remain in effect just as long as
> action modifiers do; note that you are continuing the action, not starting
> it over, at +1 stealth.
Does this mean that the original blocker, if he fails to add +1 intercept,
would not be tapped since he failed to block the action?
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