Voting Question

When a Vampire calls a vote. The vampire get one vote from the card. Does this vote count toward the one vote for a card, or can the player then play another vote card for a vote? Walter Denny "Nothings Trivial" -The Crow

On Wed, 24 May 2000, rdiet wrote: > When a Vampire calls a vote. The vampire get one vote from the card. Does > this vote count toward the one vote for a card, or can the player then play > another vote card for a vote? The political action they call, if it is frmo a political action card in their hand, counts as the "one vote" you are allowed to generate from political action cards. So, if I call Praxis Seizure: Barcelona, it generates the one vote I am allowed to get from political action cards. So I can't play one from my hand. If, however, I was calling the vote to burn Elysium: The Arboretum, since that doesn't supply a vote by way of a political action card, I could play one from my hand. -- James Coupe | PGP Key 0x5D623D5D "I know my ex-boyfriend lies. Oh, he does it every time. It's just his permanent disguise, yeah, yeah, but he's drop dead gorgeous."

Question :- Can a Camarilla vampire vote in a vote called by a Sabbat vampire (and vice versa), or are the two separate? The rules are not at all clear on this matter - I'd appreciate any answers you might have. Thanks, Looneychoonz

In article <8gm7os$kei$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Andrew Passfield" <loo...@loonunitalpha.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > Question :- > > Can a Camarilla vampire vote in a vote called by a Sabbat vampire (and vice > versa), or are the two separate? Yes, not separate. > The rules are not at all clear on this matter - I'd appreciate any answers > you might have. The rules are clear: 6.3.3. lists methods of gaining votes, none of which (including votes from vampires) are limited by the sect of the acting vampire (if any). -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) VTES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/ Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

On Fri, 26 May 2000, LSJ wrote: > > Can a Camarilla vampire vote in a vote called by a Sabbat vampire (and > vice > > versa), or are the two separate? > > Yes, not separate. However, the original poster may appreciate having it pointed out that there are a couple of cards where they cannot, when those cards are played. Closed Session limits the vote (which would be called by a Camarilla vampire, since it rquires specific titles) to solely Camarilla vampires. It is a card with potentially high use, which I have not seena lot of people using. Something to consider, I feel. One or two votes in The Sabbat set also note that only Sabbat vampires may vote in that referendum. I believe that Cardinal Benediction has such text. [ quoted text not captured ]

What about the corner case where non-aligned vampires call and win a Praxis Seizure? For example, Carlotta Giovanni gets named Prince of Venice through Praxis Seizure: Venice. On a subsequent political action, it seems she could play Closed Session, although it would also seem to prevent her from voting. Is this correct? -T [ quoted text not captured ] -- S'io credesse che mia risposta fosse a persona che mai tornasse al mondo, questa fiamma staria senza piu scosse. Ma per ciò che giammai di questo fondo non tornò vivo alcun, s'i' odo il vero, senza tema d'infamia ti rispondo. T.S. Eliot- "The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock"

Tom Longwell <trlo...@midway.uchicago.edu> wrote: > What about the corner case where [non-Cam] vampires call and win a > Praxis Seizure? Rulebook, section 10: A vampire must belong to the appropriate sect to receive a title. Only Camarilla vampires can become Primogen, Princes, Justicars, or Inner Circle members. [ quoted text not captured ]

So then why were cards like Praxis Seizure: Venice created? It gives extra votes to Giovannis. Is the idea that Giovannis make being Prince of Venice more difficult? [ quoted text not captured ] -- [ quoted text not captured ]

In article <392F8D89...@midway.uchicago.edu>, Tom Longwell <trlo...@midway.uchicago.edu> wrote: > So then why were cards like Praxis Seizure: Venice created? It gives > extra votes to Giovannis. Is the idea that Giovannis make being Prince > of Venice more difficult? Yes, the card was made that way for canon: in the White Wolf WoD (World of Darkness) settings for vampires, Giovanni clan is the absolute (independent) ruler of Venice; so the Giovanni must have a strong foot even in Camarilla politics if it involves Venice. The same card's idea should be applied in a would be "Sabbat" Crusade:Venice card. Regards Aemilianus, Prince of Rome > > LSJ wrote: > > > > Tom Longwell <trlo...@midway.uchicago.edu> wrote: > > > What about the corner case where [non-Cam] vampires call and win a > > > Praxis Seizure? > > > > Rulebook, section 10: > > A vampire must belong to the appropriate sect to receive a title. > > Only Camarilla vampires can become Primogen, Princes, Justicars, or > > Inner Circle members. > > > > -- > > LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) VTES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. > > Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: > > http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/ > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > Before you buy. > > -- > S'io credesse che mia risposta fosse > a persona che mai tornasse al mondo, > questa fiamma staria senza piu scosse. > Ma per ciň che giammai di questo fondo > non tornň vivo alcun, s'i' odo il vero, > senza tema d'infamia ti rispondo. > > T.S. Eliot- "The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock" > [ quoted text not captured ]