Deck Name: Shooting Legions
Created By: Tom
Description: Put in play Nedal and Lambach. Merge Him. Start putting Legions
on Lambach, and once you've got one or two on him, rush with nedal, play
cards like there is no tomorrow. Then put in play as many legions as lambach
has on. Equip them with magnums and rush/bleed brainlessly.
Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 4, Max: 40, Avg: 7)
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4 Nedal cel nec 1, Caitiff
4 Lambach ANI AUS DOM pre VIC 10, Tzimisce, Cardinal
4 Lambach, ADV ANI AUS DOM pre VIC 10, Tzimisce, 2 votes
Library: (90 cards)
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Master (22 cards)
14 Celerity
2 Dreams of the Sphinx
8 Tribute to the Master
Action (20 cards)
10 Bum's Rush
10 Legion
Action Modifier (4 cards)
4 Changeling
Combat (32 cards)
4 Blur
8 Concealed Weapon
6 Flash
6 Psyche!
4 Pursuit
4 Taste of Vitae
Equipment (8 cards)
8 .44 Magnum
Combo (4 cards)
4 Plasmic Form
Smiling Tom
"Smiling Tom" <t...@almadrava.net> escribió en el mensaje
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> Deck Name: Shooting Legions
> Created By: Tom
> Description: Put in play Nedal and Lambach. Merge Him. Start putting
Legions
> on Lambach, and once you've got one or two on him, rush with nedal, play
> cards like there is no tomorrow. Then put in play as many legions as
lambach
> has on. Equip them with magnums and rush/bleed brainlessly.
Retooled and rethought the deck... hasn't got an accurate number of cards,
and combat might turn a bit more nasty
Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 4, Max: 40, Avg: 7,00)
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4 Nedal cel nec 1, Caitiff
4 Lambach ANI AUS DOM pre VIC 10, Tzimisce, Cardinal
4 Lambach(ADV) ANI AUS DOM pre VIC 10, Tzimisce, 2 Votes
Library: (90 cards)
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Master (22 cards)
14 Celerity
2 Dreams of the Sphinx
6 Tribute to the Master
Action (20 cards)
10 Bum's Rush
10 Legion
Action Modifier (4 cards)
4 Changeling
Combat (26 cards)
4 Amaranth
8 Concealed Weapon
4 Dragon's Breath Rounds
6 Flash
4 Pursuit
Equipment (12 cards)
4 .44 Magnum
1 Eye of Hazimel
7 Saturday-Night Special
Combo (6 cards)
4 Plasmic Form
2 Ritual of the Bitter Rose
Smiling Tom
Lovin it...
I have been playing Lambach/Adv Lambach Legions since early September, and I
have just given up on having a deck. I like this a lot.
David
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My main concern with your deck is that there's really little defense for
Lambach. It's great to have tons of little weenies to do stuff with, but if a
combat deck manages to torporize Lambach, you are royally screwed. Not having
any Celerity, the most Lambach can do is Conceal a Gun and go to long. Long
range agg, any deck with at least one manuever, etc. could potentially take him
down.
Halcyan 2
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with 14 cel masters in there, and only 10 legion, it's quite
conceivable that Lambach might just have cel or CEL reasonably early
on....if one so desired.
salem
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salem expounded:
> On 01 Oct 2003 20:49:08 GMT, halc...@aol.com (Halcyan 2) scrawled:
>
> >My main concern with your deck is that there's really little defense for
> >Lambach. It's great to have tons of little weenies to do stuff with, but if a
> >combat deck manages to torporize Lambach, you are royally screwed. Not having
> >any Celerity, the most Lambach can do is Conceal a Gun and go to long. Long
> >range agg, any deck with at least one manuever, etc. could potentially take him
> >down.
>
> with 14 cel masters in there, and only 10 legion, it's quite
> conceivable that Lambach might just have cel or CEL reasonably early
> on....if one so desired.
My thought precicely. I don't htink 14 is enough though. Bear in mind
that every Legions can be used multiple times.
Of course with that many skill cards there is no reason it has to be
Cel: you could just as easily slap a couple of Vic or something on
Nedal. Ani might be nice - "ok prerange: 7 Carrion Crows. You?": it's
not like you care what happens to Nedal though it might be a good idea
to have more than 4 (of course that would leave Lambach too exposed)
Where are the Secure Havens?
Timlagor wrote:
> Nedal. Ani might be nice - "ok prerange: 7 Carrion Crows. You?": it's
Carrion Crows has card text that prohibits playing more than one
at a time.
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14 CEL skill cards. Some of them might easily be played on Lambach. This
will bring easily Lambach to 11 or 12 cap, so no banishment/baltimore's
purge will target him.
Also, note that cel skill cards can be easily recyclable: A legion
diablerizes a vamp, and thus is burnt through the blood hunt referendum. So?
well, that's a CEL skill card in my ash heap, ready to be called again by
lambach next turn. When the Legion action is successfull, you might pick up
a skill card either from your hand, ash heap or library...
But yes, more defense for lambach might prove usefull. I'll add a secure
haven, and perhaps some side strikes/sideslips. Or apparitions. Don't forget
that the Eye of Hazimel grants superior chimestry.
Smiling Tom
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> salem expounded:
> > On 01 Oct 2003 20:49:08 GMT, halc...@aol.com (Halcyan 2) scrawled:
> >
> > >My main concern with your deck is that there's really little defense
for
> > >Lambach. It's great to have tons of little weenies to do stuff with,
but if a
> > >combat deck manages to torporize Lambach, you are royally screwed. Not
having
> > >any Celerity, the most Lambach can do is Conceal a Gun and go to long.
Long
> > >range agg, any deck with at least one manuever, etc. could potentially
take him
> > >down.
> >
> > with 14 cel masters in there, and only 10 legion, it's quite
> > conceivable that Lambach might just have cel or CEL reasonably early
> > on....if one so desired.
>
> My thought precicely. I don't htink 14 is enough though. Bear in mind
> that every Legions can be used multiple times.
And bear in mind that they will go on a diablerie spree as soon as someone
hits the torpor. And when burned, they go to the ash heap, so can be
re-called by lambach later.
>
> Of course with that many skill cards there is no reason it has to be
> Cel: you could just as easily slap a couple of Vic or something on
> Nedal. Ani might be nice - "ok prerange: 7 Carrion Crows. You?": it's
> not like you care what happens to Nedal though it might be a good idea
> to have more than 4 (of course that would leave Lambach too exposed)
>
At first, I went for the vic side. Yes, lots of chiropteran, and so. But VIC
costs blood, and that's s thing legions have in very scarce quantities.
> Where are the Secure Havens?
I'll add one or two.
Smiling Tom
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> the idea of the deck is ex-cel-lent !
>
> Let us know when you'll test it =)
That will be far from now. As in spain almost none support pack for the
storyline has arrived. I have by now 0 lambach ADV and 0 Legions. Sure I'll
try it with proxis, and if I like it, I'll try to gather the needed cards
for this deck.
>
> Nagaraja
>
To all the necromancers, have any of you thought about a Harbringers'
version of this deck, starred by Agaitas? Sure, it will surely be only 1
legion per turn, but your prey will loose a lot of deck in the process, not
you. Something like lots of FOR skill cards, traps, undead persistence and
coctel molotov...And some daemonic possessions...
"My turn Master: blood doll. use agaitas to Replace from my prey's library.
Agaitas does a restoration, <use agaitas special>, freak drive <use agaitas
special>, revelations <use agaitas special>, freak drive <use agaitas
special>. Oh, look, I have 5 cards in hand I don't really want. I use the
legion to discard my full hand and put a newbie in the process. Replace my
full hand, and surely some reactions with them, from my own deck.
So, I have a new vamp, my prey has lost 5 cards, I have lost 2....
Smiling Tom
Seeing what the legion can do for Really Annoying Decks (tm)
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> > Deck Name: Shooting Legions
> > Created By: Tom
> > Description: Put in play Nedal and Lambach. Merge Him. Start putting
> Legions
> > on Lambach, and once you've got one or two on him, rush with nedal, play
> > cards like there is no tomorrow. Then put in play as many legions as
> lambach
> > has on. Equip them with magnums and rush/bleed brainlessly.
>
> Retooled and rethought the deck... hasn't got an accurate number of cards,
> and combat might turn a bit more nasty
>
> Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 4, Max: 40, Avg: 7,00)
> ---------------------------------------------
> 4 Nedal cel nec 1, Caitiff
> 4 Lambach ANI AUS DOM pre VIC 10, Tzimisce, Cardinal
> 4 Lambach(ADV) ANI AUS DOM pre VIC 10, Tzimisce, 2 Votes
>
> Library: (90 cards)
> -------------------
> Master (22 cards)
> 14 Celerity
> 2 Dreams of the Sphinx
> 6 Tribute to the Master
I'd up the celerity, at cost to the Tributes.
> Action (20 cards)
> 10 Bum's Rush
> 10 Legion
>
> Action Modifier (4 cards)
> 4 Changeling
>
> Combat (26 cards)
> 4 Amaranth
> 8 Concealed Weapon
> 4 Dragon's Breath Rounds
> 6 Flash
> 4 Pursuit
>
> Equipment (12 cards)
> 4 .44 Magnum
> 1 Eye of Hazimel
> 7 Saturday-Night Special
>
> Combo (6 cards)
> 4 Plasmic Form
> 2 Ritual of the Bitter Rose
Those .44s are expensive and might clog your hand a little - but I
guess that's what the dreams are for. I would drop to 2 .44s I think.
Alternatively, you could go with zip gun + taste of vitae instead,
which might get you slightly better card flow. Of course, you lose the
Dragon's Breath then, which may of may not be a problem.
>
> Those .44s are expensive and might clog your hand a little - but I
> guess that's what the dreams are for. I would drop to 2 .44s I think.
> Alternatively, you could go with zip gun + taste of vitae instead,
> which might get you slightly better card flow. Of course, you lose the
> Dragon's Breath then, which may of may not be a problem.
Well, I put 4 .44 for Lambach, Nedal and the "Elite" legions (those who
achieve superior Celerity through the game. Being able to send to torpor in
other way than just Dragon's breath isn't a good idea. And .44 are an option
I don't want to get rid off. Later in the game, hitting for 2,
additional/press 2 more might be enough to torporize most vamps.
And the Ritual of the bitter rose should work like a charm in this deck,
something i was pursuing for long time. A deck to use them!!!!
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Nice idea
Though i wonder why you need Lambach for it. Ok, he can untap after
putting out a Legion. But do yu really need him untapped?
Just wondering if there might not be a vampire who fit's better.
> Nice idea
Thanks :-)
>
> Though i wonder why you need Lambach for it. Ok, he can untap after
> putting out a Legion. But do yu really need him untapped?
>
Plain and simple: Because he can do it multiple times in a turn, and for
flavour.
If lambach[]] has, say, 3 Legion cards on, he is able to recruit 3
legionaires per turn, at a minimal cost in cards thanks to nedal's ability.
Then he will be able either to bleed, remain untapped to block, or rush if
he is equiped with the Eye of Hazimel.
> Just wondering if there might not be a vampire who fit's better.
Can be done with almost any other vamp 7+ you like most, of course. Then you
can alter the deck for either flavour or consistency. But you won't be able
to recruit more than once per turn that way. That's why lambach []] is
outstanding.
Smiling Tom
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 09:15:46 +0200, "Smiling Tom" <t...@almadrava.net>
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>
>To all the necromancers, have any of you thought about a Harbringers'
>version of this deck, starred by Agaitas? Sure, it will surely be only 1
Agaitas would need something in addition to a For skill card. he needs
to be ABOVE 7 to play Legion.
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On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 09:03:17 +0200, "Smiling Tom" <t...@almadrava.net>
scrawled:
>lambach next turn. When the Legion action is successfull, you might pick up>a skill card either from your hand, ash heap or library...
you might pick one up from your library after replacing your hand, but
you can't play a skill card out of your library for Legion, it has to
be hand or ash heap.
>But yes, more defense for lambach might prove usefull. I'll add a secure
>haven, and perhaps some side strikes/sideslips. Or apparitions. Don't forget
>that the Eye of Hazimel grants superior chimestry.
Now it's just going stoopid. Noone else will have chi, unless you play
legion as chi skill cards, but then it's a totally different deck.
Lots of little vics fleshcrafting everyone they meet might be funny,
though, if you are going to make a different deck.
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> >
> >To all the necromancers, have any of you thought about a Harbringers'
> >version of this deck, starred by Agaitas? Sure, it will surely be only 1
>
> Agaitas would need something in addition to a For skill card. he needs
> to be ABOVE 7 to play Legion.
But the good point of this deck is that you don't need to play only Agaitas.
You can play a standard HoS crypt, and use one of the 8+ HoS as Legion
master.
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