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[DECK]Shooting Legions

18 messages from 9 participants · 01 October 2003 – 02 October 2003
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Smiling Tom

Deck Name: Shooting Legions Created By: Tom Description: Put in play Nedal and Lambach. Merge Him. Start putting Legions on Lambach, and once you've got one or two on him, rush with nedal, play cards like there is no tomorrow. Then put in play as many legions as lambach has on. Equip them with magnums and rush/bleed brainlessly. Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 4, Max: 40, Avg: 7) --------------------------------------------- 4 Nedal cel nec 1, Caitiff 4 Lambach ANI AUS DOM pre VIC 10, Tzimisce, Cardinal 4 Lambach, ADV ANI AUS DOM pre VIC 10, Tzimisce, 2 votes Library: (90 cards) ------------------- Master (22 cards) 14 Celerity 2 Dreams of the Sphinx 8 Tribute to the Master Action (20 cards) 10 Bum's Rush 10 Legion Action Modifier (4 cards) 4 Changeling Combat (32 cards) 4 Blur 8 Concealed Weapon 6 Flash 6 Psyche! 4 Pursuit 4 Taste of Vitae Equipment (8 cards) 8 .44 Magnum Combo (4 cards) 4 Plasmic Form Smiling Tom

Smiling Tom

"Smiling Tom" <t...@almadrava.net> escribió en el mensaje news:blf1od$koc$1...@nsnmrro2-gest.nuria.telefonica-data.net... > Deck Name: Shooting Legions > Created By: Tom > Description: Put in play Nedal and Lambach. Merge Him. Start putting Legions > on Lambach, and once you've got one or two on him, rush with nedal, play > cards like there is no tomorrow. Then put in play as many legions as lambach > has on. Equip them with magnums and rush/bleed brainlessly. Retooled and rethought the deck... hasn't got an accurate number of cards, and combat might turn a bit more nasty Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 4, Max: 40, Avg: 7,00) --------------------------------------------- 4 Nedal cel nec 1, Caitiff 4 Lambach ANI AUS DOM pre VIC 10, Tzimisce, Cardinal 4 Lambach(ADV) ANI AUS DOM pre VIC 10, Tzimisce, 2 Votes Library: (90 cards) ------------------- Master (22 cards) 14 Celerity 2 Dreams of the Sphinx 6 Tribute to the Master Action (20 cards) 10 Bum's Rush 10 Legion Action Modifier (4 cards) 4 Changeling Combat (26 cards) 4 Amaranth 8 Concealed Weapon 4 Dragon's Breath Rounds 6 Flash 4 Pursuit Equipment (12 cards) 4 .44 Magnum 1 Eye of Hazimel 7 Saturday-Night Special Combo (6 cards) 4 Plasmic Form 2 Ritual of the Bitter Rose Smiling Tom

Nagaraja

the idea of the deck is ex-cel-lent ! Let us know when you'll test it =) Nagaraja

Metropolis

Lovin it... I have been playing Lambach/Adv Lambach Legions since early September, and I have just given up on having a deck. I like this a lot. David "Smiling Tom" <t...@almadrava.net> wrote in message news:blf3t2$150$1...@nsnmrro2-gest.nuria.telefonica-data.net... [ quoted text not captured ]

Halcyan 2

My main concern with your deck is that there's really little defense for Lambach. It's great to have tons of little weenies to do stuff with, but if a combat deck manages to torporize Lambach, you are royally screwed. Not having any Celerity, the most Lambach can do is Conceal a Gun and go to long. Long range agg, any deck with at least one manuever, etc. could potentially take him down. Halcyan 2

salem

On 01 Oct 2003 20:49:08 GMT, halc...@aol.com (Halcyan 2) scrawled: [ quoted text not captured ] with 14 cel masters in there, and only 10 legion, it's quite conceivable that Lambach might just have cel or CEL reasonably early on....if one so desired. salem domain:canberra http://www.geocities.com/salem_christ.geo/vtes.htm

Timlagor

salem expounded: > On 01 Oct 2003 20:49:08 GMT, halc...@aol.com (Halcyan 2) scrawled: > > >My main concern with your deck is that there's really little defense for > >Lambach. It's great to have tons of little weenies to do stuff with, but if a > >combat deck manages to torporize Lambach, you are royally screwed. Not having > >any Celerity, the most Lambach can do is Conceal a Gun and go to long. Long > >range agg, any deck with at least one manuever, etc. could potentially take him > >down. > > with 14 cel masters in there, and only 10 legion, it's quite > conceivable that Lambach might just have cel or CEL reasonably early > on....if one so desired. My thought precicely. I don't htink 14 is enough though. Bear in mind that every Legions can be used multiple times. Of course with that many skill cards there is no reason it has to be Cel: you could just as easily slap a couple of Vic or something on Nedal. Ani might be nice - "ok prerange: 7 Carrion Crows. You?": it's not like you care what happens to Nedal though it might be a good idea to have more than 4 (of course that would leave Lambach too exposed) Where are the Secure Havens?

LSJ

Timlagor wrote: > Nedal. Ani might be nice - "ok prerange: 7 Carrion Crows. You?": it's Carrion Crows has card text that prohibits playing more than one at a time. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

Smiling Tom

"Halcyan 2" <halc...@aol.com> escribió en el mensaje news:20031001164908...@mb-m24.aol.com... [ quoted text not captured ] 14 CEL skill cards. Some of them might easily be played on Lambach. This will bring easily Lambach to 11 or 12 cap, so no banishment/baltimore's purge will target him. Also, note that cel skill cards can be easily recyclable: A legion diablerizes a vamp, and thus is burnt through the blood hunt referendum. So? well, that's a CEL skill card in my ash heap, ready to be called again by lambach next turn. When the Legion action is successfull, you might pick up a skill card either from your hand, ash heap or library... But yes, more defense for lambach might prove usefull. I'll add a secure haven, and perhaps some side strikes/sideslips. Or apparitions. Don't forget that the Eye of Hazimel grants superior chimestry. Smiling Tom

Smiling Tom

"Timlagor" <Timlagor...@yahoo.co.uk> escribió en el mensaje news:MPG.19e575021...@news.freeserve.com... > salem expounded: > > On 01 Oct 2003 20:49:08 GMT, halc...@aol.com (Halcyan 2) scrawled: > > > > >My main concern with your deck is that there's really little defense for > > >Lambach. It's great to have tons of little weenies to do stuff with, but if a > > >combat deck manages to torporize Lambach, you are royally screwed. Not having > > >any Celerity, the most Lambach can do is Conceal a Gun and go to long. Long > > >range agg, any deck with at least one manuever, etc. could potentially take him > > >down. > > > > with 14 cel masters in there, and only 10 legion, it's quite > > conceivable that Lambach might just have cel or CEL reasonably early > > on....if one so desired. > > My thought precicely. I don't htink 14 is enough though. Bear in mind > that every Legions can be used multiple times. And bear in mind that they will go on a diablerie spree as soon as someone hits the torpor. And when burned, they go to the ash heap, so can be re-called by lambach later. > > Of course with that many skill cards there is no reason it has to be > Cel: you could just as easily slap a couple of Vic or something on > Nedal. Ani might be nice - "ok prerange: 7 Carrion Crows. You?": it's > not like you care what happens to Nedal though it might be a good idea > to have more than 4 (of course that would leave Lambach too exposed) > At first, I went for the vic side. Yes, lots of chiropteran, and so. But VIC costs blood, and that's s thing legions have in very scarce quantities. > Where are the Secure Havens? I'll add one or two. Smiling Tom

Smiling Tom

"Nagaraja" <ego...@club-internet.frNOSPAM> escribió en el mensaje news:3f7b2e35$0$20948$7a62...@news.club-internet.fr... > the idea of the deck is ex-cel-lent ! > > Let us know when you'll test it =) That will be far from now. As in spain almost none support pack for the storyline has arrived. I have by now 0 lambach ADV and 0 Legions. Sure I'll try it with proxis, and if I like it, I'll try to gather the needed cards for this deck. > > Nagaraja > To all the necromancers, have any of you thought about a Harbringers' version of this deck, starred by Agaitas? Sure, it will surely be only 1 legion per turn, but your prey will loose a lot of deck in the process, not you. Something like lots of FOR skill cards, traps, undead persistence and coctel molotov...And some daemonic possessions... "My turn Master: blood doll. use agaitas to Replace from my prey's library. Agaitas does a restoration, <use agaitas special>, freak drive <use agaitas special>, revelations <use agaitas special>, freak drive <use agaitas special>. Oh, look, I have 5 cards in hand I don't really want. I use the legion to discard my full hand and put a newbie in the process. Replace my full hand, and surely some reactions with them, from my own deck. So, I have a new vamp, my prey has lost 5 cards, I have lost 2.... Smiling Tom Seeing what the legion can do for Really Annoying Decks (tm)

Tobias

"Smiling Tom" <t...@almadrava.net> wrote in message news:<blf3t2$150$1...@nsnmrro2-gest.nuria.telefonica-data.net>... > "Smiling Tom" <t...@almadrava.net> escribió en el mensaje > news:blf1od$koc$1...@nsnmrro2-gest.nuria.telefonica-data.net... > > Deck Name: Shooting Legions > > Created By: Tom > > Description: Put in play Nedal and Lambach. Merge Him. Start putting > Legions > > on Lambach, and once you've got one or two on him, rush with nedal, play > > cards like there is no tomorrow. Then put in play as many legions as > lambach > > has on. Equip them with magnums and rush/bleed brainlessly. > > Retooled and rethought the deck... hasn't got an accurate number of cards, > and combat might turn a bit more nasty > > Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 4, Max: 40, Avg: 7,00) > --------------------------------------------- > 4 Nedal cel nec 1, Caitiff > 4 Lambach ANI AUS DOM pre VIC 10, Tzimisce, Cardinal > 4 Lambach(ADV) ANI AUS DOM pre VIC 10, Tzimisce, 2 Votes > > Library: (90 cards) > ------------------- > Master (22 cards) > 14 Celerity > 2 Dreams of the Sphinx > 6 Tribute to the Master I'd up the celerity, at cost to the Tributes. > Action (20 cards) > 10 Bum's Rush > 10 Legion > > Action Modifier (4 cards) > 4 Changeling > > Combat (26 cards) > 4 Amaranth > 8 Concealed Weapon > 4 Dragon's Breath Rounds > 6 Flash > 4 Pursuit > > Equipment (12 cards) > 4 .44 Magnum > 1 Eye of Hazimel > 7 Saturday-Night Special > > Combo (6 cards) > 4 Plasmic Form > 2 Ritual of the Bitter Rose Those .44s are expensive and might clog your hand a little - but I guess that's what the dreams are for. I would drop to 2 .44s I think. Alternatively, you could go with zip gun + taste of vitae instead, which might get you slightly better card flow. Of course, you lose the Dragon's Breath then, which may of may not be a problem.

Smiling Tom

> > Those .44s are expensive and might clog your hand a little - but I > guess that's what the dreams are for. I would drop to 2 .44s I think. > Alternatively, you could go with zip gun + taste of vitae instead, > which might get you slightly better card flow. Of course, you lose the > Dragon's Breath then, which may of may not be a problem. Well, I put 4 .44 for Lambach, Nedal and the "Elite" legions (those who achieve superior Celerity through the game. Being able to send to torpor in other way than just Dragon's breath isn't a good idea. And .44 are an option I don't want to get rid off. Later in the game, hitting for 2, additional/press 2 more might be enough to torporize most vamps. And the Ritual of the bitter rose should work like a charm in this deck, something i was pursuing for long time. A deck to use them!!!!

Angus, the Unruled

"Smiling Tom" <t...@almadrava.net> wrote in message news:<blf3t2$150$1...@nsnmrro2-gest.nuria.telefonica-data.net>... [ quoted text not captured ] Nice idea Though i wonder why you need Lambach for it. Ok, he can untap after putting out a Legion. But do yu really need him untapped? Just wondering if there might not be a vampire who fit's better.

Smiling Tom

> Nice idea Thanks :-) > > Though i wonder why you need Lambach for it. Ok, he can untap after > putting out a Legion. But do yu really need him untapped? > Plain and simple: Because he can do it multiple times in a turn, and for flavour. If lambach[]] has, say, 3 Legion cards on, he is able to recruit 3 legionaires per turn, at a minimal cost in cards thanks to nedal's ability. Then he will be able either to bleed, remain untapped to block, or rush if he is equiped with the Eye of Hazimel. > Just wondering if there might not be a vampire who fit's better. Can be done with almost any other vamp 7+ you like most, of course. Then you can alter the deck for either flavour or consistency. But you won't be able to recruit more than once per turn that way. That's why lambach []] is outstanding. Smiling Tom

salem

On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 09:15:46 +0200, "Smiling Tom" <t...@almadrava.net> scrawled: > >To all the necromancers, have any of you thought about a Harbringers' >version of this deck, starred by Agaitas? Sure, it will surely be only 1 Agaitas would need something in addition to a For skill card. he needs to be ABOVE 7 to play Legion. [ quoted text not captured ]

salem

On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 09:03:17 +0200, "Smiling Tom" <t...@almadrava.net> scrawled: >lambach next turn. When the Legion action is successfull, you might pick up >a skill card either from your hand, ash heap or library... you might pick one up from your library after replacing your hand, but you can't play a skill card out of your library for Legion, it has to be hand or ash heap. >But yes, more defense for lambach might prove usefull. I'll add a secure >haven, and perhaps some side strikes/sideslips. Or apparitions. Don't forget >that the Eye of Hazimel grants superior chimestry. Now it's just going stoopid. Noone else will have chi, unless you play legion as chi skill cards, but then it's a totally different deck. Lots of little vics fleshcrafting everyone they meet might be funny, though, if you are going to make a different deck. [ quoted text not captured ]

Smiling Tom

> > > >To all the necromancers, have any of you thought about a Harbringers' > >version of this deck, starred by Agaitas? Sure, it will surely be only 1 > > Agaitas would need something in addition to a For skill card. he needs > to be ABOVE 7 to play Legion. But the good point of this deck is that you don't need to play only Agaitas. You can play a standard HoS crypt, and use one of the 8+ HoS as Legion master. [ quoted text not captured ]