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Ankou + Spirit marionette (LSJ?)

4 messages from 2 participants · 05 June 2010
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technobabble66

If i hv a minion who uses spirit marionette to "borrow" another meth's minion, then use heidelberg to drain them completely so they're forced to hunt, at what point does The Ankou use his ability? Is it while the stolen minion is still under my control, or does the minion return to the actual owner of the minion, then The Ankou may attempt to burn it? I assume the minion returns first. I'm particularly concerned abt effects such as Tension in the Ranks... Spirit Marionette Action Dominate (D) Bleed at +1 bleed. Obeah (D) Bleed at +1 bleed and tap a ready minion controlled by your prey (even if the target of the bleed is changed). +1 stealth action. (D) Take control of a ready untapped minion until the end of the next action. That minion must bleed your prey unless he or she must hunt. Ankou, The Malkavian Capacity: 10 Group: 5 Camarilla: When any vampire successfully hunts while the Ankou is ready and untapped, the Ankou may burn that vampire as a (D) action that turn (even on another Methuselah's turn).

LSJ

On Jun 5, 7:29 am, technobabble66 <stujaq...@hotmail.com> wrote: > If i hv a minion who uses spirit marionette to "borrow" another meth's > minion, then use heidelberg to drain them completely so they're forced > to hunt, at what point does The Ankou use his ability? In the normal sequence. > Is it while the > stolen minion is still under my control, or does the minion return to > the actual owner of the minion, then The Ankou may attempt to burn it? > I assume the minion returns first. Correct. And then you get to take any other actions you wish. Then your prey. (back to you if the prey takes ay action). Then your grand-prey. (back to you if ...) And so on around the table until you get to Ankou's controller. [ quoted text not captured ]

technobabble66

On Jun 5, 10:01 pm, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote: > On Jun 5, 7:29 am, technobabble66 <stujaq...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > If i hv a minion who uses spirit marionette to "borrow" another meth's > > minion, then use heidelberg to drain them completely so they're forced > > to hunt, at what point does The Ankou use his ability? > > In the normal sequence. > > > Is it while the > > stolen minion is still under my control, or does the minion return to > > the actual owner of the minion, then The Ankou may attempt to burn it? > > I assume the minion returns first. > > Correct. > > And then you get to take any other actions you wish. > Then your prey. (back to you if the prey takes ay action). > Then your grand-prey. (back to you if ...) > And so on around the table until you get to Ankou's controller. > Thanks, i'm not sure i follow the significance of the last few lines of text... But doesn't matter, so long as Ankou can burn the minion after it returns. I probably also shouldve mentioned the plan was that *i* was the one with The Ankou. so i'd steal a minion, drain it w Heidelberg, then once it's forced to hunt burn it with The Ankou. Wheel within wheels ... ;-) i guess i still need to drain pool 'n stuff tho

LSJ

On Jun 5, 8:42 am, technobabble66 <stujaq...@hotmail.com> wrote: > On Jun 5, 10:01 pm, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jun 5, 7:29 am, technobabble66 <stujaq...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > If i hv a minion who uses spirit marionette to "borrow" another meth's > > > minion, then use heidelberg to drain them completely so they're forced > > > to hunt, at what point does The Ankou use his ability? > > > In the normal sequence. > > > > Is it while the > > > stolen minion is still under my control, or does the minion return to > > > the actual owner of the minion, then The Ankou may attempt to burn it? > > > I assume the minion returns first. > > > Correct. > > > And then you get to take any other actions you wish. > > Then your prey. (back to you if the prey takes ay action). > > Then your grand-prey. (back to you if ...) > > And so on around the table until you get to Ankou's controller. > > Thanks, > i'm not sure i follow the significance of the last few lines of > text... The Ankou takes the action any time in the current turn. The same order that applies to normal actions, Madness Network actions, and Enkil Cog actions applies to The Ankou's action. > But doesn't matter, so long as Ankou can burn the minion after it > returns. > > I probably also shouldve mentioned the plan was that *i* was the one > with The Ankou. > so i'd steal a minion, drain it w Heidelberg, then once it's forced to > hunt burn it with The Ankou. That works. [ quoted text not captured ]