(LSJ) Cavalier vs cost-affecting cards

Hi Scott, Here's a question about cost-affecting cards. Suppose my vampire has a Cavalier. We'll suppose there's no block on any action. a/ Slow Withering is in play. He plays superior Enchant Kindred. At the end of the action, can he burn 1 blood to untap via Cavalier? My opinion is he can. b/ Izhim plays superior Loss. Can he burn 1 blood to untap at the end of the action via Cavalier? My opinion is he can't. (just for search purpouses, the answer to this one should be the same as the answer to "I have Path of ... and a Cavalier - can I untap?" ) c/ My vampire has Ankara Citadel. He performs a Govern the Unaligned action, which costs 1 blood but for which he pays 0. Can he burn 1 blood to untap at the end of the action via Cavalier? My opinion is he can. Ankara Citadel ( Drink the Blood of Ahriman and Inscription ) don't change the cost, just the amount of blood spent to pay it. Thanks, Pascal ~~ The Ankara Citadel, Turkey Cardtype: Equipment Clan: Tremere Cost: 2 blood This equipment card represents a unique location and does not count as equipment while in play. The vampire with this location pays only half of the blood cost for any cards he or she plays (round down). Izhim abd Azrael Cardtype: Vampire Clan: Assamite Group: 5 Capacity: 9 Discipline: pot CEL OBF QUI THA Sabbat. Black Hand. Seraph: Cards that require Quietus cost Izhim 1 less blood. Weapons cost him 1 less pool or blood. (The blood curse does not affect Izhim.) The Slow Withering Cardtype: Event Gehenna. Do not replace until a vampire commits diablerie. Requires at least one other Gehenna card in play. Cards that require any superior Disciplines cost an additional blood. Any vampire who commits diablerie is immune to this effect until the next Gehenna card is played.

Eh .. Of course, I forgot to quote Cavalier's cardtext: Cavalier Cardtype: Master Master: archetype. Put this card on a vampire you control. Once per turn, when this vampire successfully performs an action that costs 1 or more blood, he or she may burn an additional blood to untap. ={A vampire can have only one archetype.}=

On Apr 19, 5:02 pm, floppyzedolfin <floppyzedol...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Scott, Howdy, Pascal. > Here's a question about cost-affecting cards. > Suppose my vampire has a Cavalier. > We'll suppose there's no block on any action. > > a/ Slow Withering is in play. He plays superior Enchant Kindred. At > the end of the action, can he burn 1 blood to untap via Cavalier? > My opinion is he can. Yes. > b/ Izhim plays superior Loss. Can he burn 1 blood to untap at the end > of the action via Cavalier? > My opinion is he can't. (just for search purpouses, the answer to this > one should be the same as the answer to "I have Path of ... and a > Cavalier - can I untap?" ) Correct. > c/ My vampire has Ankara Citadel. He performs a Govern the Unaligned > action, which costs 1 blood but for which he pays 0. Can he burn 1 > blood to untap at the end of the action via Cavalier? > My opinion is he can. Ankara Citadel ( Drink the Blood of Ahriman and > Inscription ) don't change the cost, just the amount of blood spent to > pay it. Correct. [ quoted text not captured ]

On Apr 19, 9:45 pm, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote: > On Apr 19, 5:02 pm, floppyzedolfin <floppyzedol...@gmail.com> wrote: > > c/ My vampire has Ankara Citadel. He performs a Govern the Unaligned > > action, which costs 1 blood but for which he pays 0. Can he burn 1 > > blood to untap at the end of the action via Cavalier? > > My opinion is he can. Ankara Citadel ( Drink the Blood of Ahriman and > > Inscription ) don't change the cost, just the amount of blood spent to > > pay it. > > Correct. REVERSAL: Ankara Citadel changes the cost. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/5f9c5c1fac38c17e http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/f1d08997ed515634 Likewise Drink the Blood of Ahriman. ? Inscription doesn't change the cost of anything, though. [ quoted text not captured ]