rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Eldest Command Undeath vs Voter Captivation

5 messages from 4 participants · 02 October 2008 – 03 October 2008
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sg3kmb6...@gmail.com

If a vampire calls The Eldest Command Undeath and the vote passes by 8, can xe play Voter Capitivation (inferior, superior or both)? If yes, can the acting vampire's controller gain 2 pool? It came up in a game yesterday and we ruled that it could be played and that the pool could be gained, but I figured it'd be nice to be sure about it. The Eldest Command Undeath Cardtype: Political Action Cost: X blood <Requires a> Laibon. Choose a vampire controlled by your prey with capacity less than X. Successful referendum means that vampire is burned. This acting vampire cannot gain blood this action. Any blood he or she gains goes to the blood bank instead. Voter Captivation Cardtype: Action Modifier Discipline: Presence Only usable after resolving a successful referendum <called by this acting vampire>. [pre] The acting vampire gains X blood from the blood bank, where X is the number of votes by which the referendum passed. [PRE] As above, but move up to 2 of those blood counters to your pool instead of this vampire.

Felix

[ quoted text not captured ] the cardtext is pretty clear , you move blood from voter captivation to your pool INSTEAD OF to your vampire , and eldest command undead only drains the blood the vampire gains into the bloodbank.

LSJ

Felix wrote: > On 2 Okt., 22:36, sg3kmb613sdf...@gmail.com wrote: >> If a vampire calls The Eldest Command Undeath and the vote passes by >> 8, can xe play Voter Capitivation (inferior, superior or both)? >> >> If yes, can the acting vampire's controller gain 2 pool? >> >> It came up in a game yesterday and we ruled that it could be played >> and that the pool could be gained, but I figured it'd be nice to be >> sure about it. > the cardtext is pretty clear , you move blood from voter captivation > to your pool INSTEAD OF to your vampire , and eldest command undead > only drains the blood the vampire gains into the bloodbank. Correct.

Chris Berger

[ quoted text not captured ] That is one way to interpret it, and that's the way I think it does work. However, "cannot gain blood" isn't completely clear. I thought at one point that perhaps it meant that you can't play cards that cause you to gain blood, such as Voter Cap, just as a vampire that cannot have or use equipment cannot take an equip action. I was convinced by my play group that ECU and VC work as you say, but it probably wouldn't hurt to have confirmation, and I can see why the OP asks the question.

sg3kmb6...@gmail.com

[ quoted text not captured ] Yeah.. It is pretty clear, and that was the way we ruled as well.. But if it was crystal clear I wouldn't have asked :p I tend to ask (or search) for all rulings we make when playing just to make sure we've gotten it right, since it makes it easier in the long run.