rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad

Talbots Chansaw and Taste of Viate

3 messages from 3 participants · 20 March 1996 – 25 March 1996
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Stafford, David A

I was playing my Talbot's chainsaw deck the other day when I ran into a dispute. I did as talbots said and attacked a minion, Talbot's was on sarah cobler (expert thalmaturgy). I wanted to use theft as a strike instead of the chainsaw because i couldn't really afford to use the chantry to pull her out of toropor. My victim said that if i used part of the card, I must use all of the card. I easily agree in any case where it would say somthing like Strike: 1R and opt. Manuver. If you use the manuver you must use the 1R. But Talbot's has a lot of stuff on it and it is not as cut and dry. Does this mean i can't even use a dodge? My question is: With Talbot's must you strike with talbots? One more question: Here is the situation: In combat,close range,he strikes hands,I strike minor theft,we both play taste. I felt he could not play taste yet I could. I feel very confident in this opinion, but i could not produce the rule to prove it to him. Thanks, Dave

L. Scott Johnson

In article <20MAR199...@rosie.uh.edu>, Stafford, David A <das7...@rosie.uh.edu> wrote: >I was playing my Talbot's chainsaw deck the other day when I ran into a >dispute. I did as talbots said and attacked a minion, Talbot's was on sarah >cobler (expert thalmaturgy). I wanted to use theft as a strike instead of >the chainsaw because i couldn't really afford to use the chantry >to pull her out of toropor. My victim said that if i used part of the card, >I must use all of the card. I easily agree in any case where it would say >somthing like Strike: 1R and opt. Manuver. If you use the manuver you must >use the 1R. But Talbot's has a lot of stuff on it and it is not as cut and >dry. Does this mean i can't even use a dodge? My question is: >With Talbot's must you strike with talbots? No. The strike is optional, the Press is optional, and the prevention of damage is optional. Even the attack has been ruled to be optional, though it is worded otherwise. They are all independent (i.e., you could use the strike even if the combat was a result of you blocking someone else's action). >One more question: >Here is the situation: >In combat,close range,he strikes hands,I strike minor theft,we both play taste. >I felt he could not play taste yet I could. I feel very confident in this >opinion, but i could not produce the rule to prove it to him. You can both play taste, but taste won't count blood lost to stealing - it only counts blood burnt to heal damage (errata). So the vampire who played theft of vitae can play taste, but will gain nothing for it. -- ----- L. Scott Johnson (lsc...@crl.com) | The opinions expressed are mine Graphics Specialist and V:tES Rulemonger | and subject to card text

D.P. Hammersley

>One more question: >Here is the situation: >In combat,close range,he strikes hands,I strike minor theft,we both play taste. >I felt he could not play taste yet I could. I feel very confident in this >opinion, but i could not produce the rule to prove it to him. >Dave So, in the round, both the vampires have lost a blood and thus both may play a taste to regain that one blood lost - though why one would play such a good card in this situation is, I should think, the real question!!! ..its a rhetorical question by the way... "I'll just say my secret magic word..."