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(which came to mind because of The Grandest Trick) Do "only usable when an action is announced" cards have a window of playability while announcing the action in which only cards with this text can be played? ie, is it illegal to play Conditioning while still in the "announcing the action" phase? I'm wondering because The Grandest Trick would (obviously) be much more useful if you can play your Conditioning before playing The Grandest Trick (since you can't play it after). But with all those restrictions on the card, it seems likely that it doesn't intend to allow this. thanks, Josh and why is it so grand to pretend to be a human?

Joshua Duffin wrote: > > (which came to mind because of The Grandest Trick) > > Do "only usable when an action is announced" cards have a window > of playability while announcing the action in which only cards > with this text can be played? Yes. > ie, is it illegal to play > Conditioning while still in the "announcing the action" phase? No. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

In message <3C10DF70...@white-wolf.com>, LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> mumbled something about: >Joshua Duffin wrote: >> ie, is it illegal to play >> Conditioning while still in the "announcing the action" phase? > >No. However, if you played a Conditioning, the action would now require a discipline, making Grandest Trick unplayable, correct? -- Derek ...Vampire Squirrel has come to bite your nuts!

Derek Ray wrote: > > In message <3C10DF70...@white-wolf.com>, > LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> mumbled something about: > > >Joshua Duffin wrote: > >> ie, is it illegal to play > >> Conditioning while still in the "announcing the action" phase? > > > >No. > > However, if you played a Conditioning, the action would now require a > discipline, making Grandest Trick unplayable, correct? No. What the action requires is no connected to any action modifiers. [ quoted text not captured ]

"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:3C10DF70...@white-wolf.com... > Joshua Duffin wrote: > > Do "only usable when an action is announced" cards have a window > > of playability while announcing the action in which only cards > > with this text can be played? > > Yes. > > > ie, is it illegal to play > > Conditioning while still in the "announcing the action" phase? > > No. I don't understand why these answers don't contradict each other. If there's a phase where only "while announcing the action" cards are legal, then you can't play Conditioning during that phase, since it doesn't say "playable only while announcing an action". Or do you mean that there is an "announcing the action" phase, which is the only time "announcing an action" cards can be played, but other cards can be played during that phase as well? Josh easily confused

> If there's a phase where only "while announcing the action" > cards are legal, then you can't play Conditioning during that > phase, since it doesn't say "playable only while announcing an > action". Or do you mean that there is an "announcing the action" > phase, which is the only time "announcing an action" cards can > be played, but other cards can be played during that phase as > well? I think you're answering your own question here. If an Action Modifier says "playable ONLY while announcing the action", then it's playable ONLY while announcing the action. If it doesn't say that, then you can play it while announcing the action or after announcing the action. You have more options of when to play it. Did I make this less confusing, or more confusing?

Joshua Duffin wrote: > > "LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message > news:3C10DF70...@white-wolf.com... > > Joshua Duffin wrote: > > > > Do "only usable when an action is announced" cards have a window > > > of playability while announcing the action in which only cards > > > with this text can be played? > > > > Yes. > > > > > ie, is it illegal to play > > > Conditioning while still in the "announcing the action" phase? > > > > No. > > I don't understand why these answers don't contradict each other. They do. I misread your second question as "legal". The correct answer to both is "yes". [ quoted text not captured ]