After a small hiatus, our group has begun playing Jyhad again.
Once again, we were faced with the unclear forced Withdrawal
rules (we've actually been forced to use the rules three
times now.)
We can't seem to get our minds around the rulings; the
problem lies, strangely enough, with the term,
'must withdraw'.
Now, Withdrawal, as we understand it, means:
1) Minions cannot enter combat
2) minions cannot burn/lose blood
3) Meth. cannot lose pool
Can the Meth continue to perform actions which do
not violate this rule? I.e. perform bleed actions,
equip 'free' equipment, call votes, etc. which
could finish off his opponant, but could also
lead to his minions entering combat?
We'd appreciate a good, solid FAQ on the subject,
if such exists...
Alan (aj)
Alan Flesch wrote:
>
> After a small hiatus, our group has begun playing Jyhad again.
> Once again, we were faced with the unclear forced Withdrawal
> rules (we've actually been forced to use the rules three
> times now.)
>
> We can't seem to get our minds around the rulings; the
> problem lies, strangely enough, with the term,
> 'must withdraw'.
>
> Now, Withdrawal, as we understand it, means:
>
> 1) Minions cannot enter combat
> 2) minions cannot burn/lose blood
> 3) Meth. cannot lose pool
Withdraw means to leave the game.
In Jyhad/Vtes, a methuselah who was intending to withdraw
must keep her minions out of combat and must keep all of her
pool and minions' blood intact for the duration of the time
between the announcement of the intention to withdraw and her
next untap phase.
If she succeeeds, then whe withdraws.
In the Sabbat, there is simply a successful withdrawal. This
happens immediately when a methuselah finds herself with less
than a full hand due to having exhausted her library.
> Can the Meth continue to perform actions which do
> not violate this rule? I.e. perform bleed actions,
> equip 'free' equipment, call votes, etc. which
> could finish off his opponant, but could also
> lead to his minions entering combat?
Moot. The methuselah is out of the game, and all of the cards
she controlled are burned.
--
L. Scott Johnson (vte...@regency.wizards.com)
Official VtES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast.
(*) - Subject to review by Rules Team
>Now, Withdrawal, as we understand it, means:>1) Minions cannot enter combat
>2) minions cannot burn/lose blood
>3) Meth. cannot lose pool
In Sabbat forced withdrawal means exactly that - immediate leaving of the
game. No previous rules about withdrawal must or in fact can be adhered
to in such a case.
So, you're just gone.
---
Liam Burke
"The Democrats can't pull it together if we rip them apart."
-overheard