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hello all! if a vampire has 0 blood it have to hunt as first action or he can hunt after another minion/s action? if a vampire has 0 blood and hunts, is blocked and plays a combat ends and untap, he needs to hunt again, but it can't make the same action again, what occurs then? can be various equal unique master in play at the same time? for example, various path of metamorphosis. if a vampire inflicts succesfully aggravated and no-aggravated damage in combat to a minion can this minion select what kind of damage absorvs first? for example 2 aggravated and 2 non-aggravated, i play a skin of rock to absorv the 2 aggravated and only lost 2 blood from the normal one. bye!!! Geb

In article <3a5d36cc....@news.mad.ttd.net>, 1gan...@teleline.es (Geb) wrote: > if a vampire has 0 blood it have to hunt as first action or he can > hunt after another minion/s action? Mandatory actions must be taken first. [LSJ 11-27-2000] If at any time during your minion phase you have an untapped minion with no blood, your next action must be for that vampire to hunt. http://www.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=698219373 > if a vampire has 0 blood and hunts, is blocked and plays a combat ends > and untap, he needs to hunt again, but it can't make the same action > again, what occurs then? He stays untapped and is unable to take any actions that minion phase. At this point, the rest of your minions may act. > can be various equal unique master in play at the same time? for > example, various path of metamorphosis. No. Unique means Unique. Only one copy of any unique card may be in play at a time. See the rulebook, page 8, 13, 19. See also 1.6.1.4 "Uniqueness: If a card is identified as 砥nique," then only one copy of that card can be in play at a time. If a second copy is brought into play, the copies will be contested (and out of play) until all but one is yielded (see Contested Cards, sec. 4.1)." http://lasombra.tripod.com/rulebook.htm#page_13 > if a vampire inflicts succesfully aggravated and no-aggravated damage > in combat to a minion can this minion select what kind of damage > absorvs first? for example 2 aggravated and 2 non-aggravated, i play a > skin of rock to absorv the 2 aggravated and only lost 2 blood from the > normal one. All of the damage resolves at the same time, with non-aggravated damage applied first to maximize the chances of burning the vampire. You may prevent any of the damage with appropriate cards, you do not have to prevent the non-aggravated damage before the aggravated damage. See 6.4.6 of the rulebook and page 42: http://lasombra.tripod.com/rulebook.htm#6.4.6 Carpe Noctem. Lasombra http://lasombra.tripod.com http://legbiter.tripod.com http://vekn_clans.tripod.com Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/

Can I get confirmation of this? My group has been playing since the beginning and we were under the impression that regular damage had to be healed first before aggravated damage was healed.. maybe we should get out more :) > > if a vampire inflicts succesfully aggravated and no-aggravated damage > > in combat to a minion can this minion select what kind of damage > > absorvs first? for example 2 aggravated and 2 non-aggravated, i play a > > skin of rock to absorv the 2 aggravated and only lost 2 blood from the > > normal one. > > All of the damage resolves at the same time, with non-aggravated > damage applied first to maximize the chances of burning the vampire. > You may prevent any of the damage with appropriate cards, you do not > have to prevent the non-aggravated damage before the aggravated damage. > Jason

"Jason" <no...@here.com> a écrit dans le message news: nNI56.60479$f36.2...@news20.bellglobal.com... > Can I get confirmation of this? Maybe you're new here, so listen: when The Lasombra or LSJ say something, no need for further confirmation. We all trust them. [ quoted text not captured ]

"Jason" <no...@here.com> wrote: > Can I get confirmation of this? > > My group has been playing since the beginning and we were under the > impression that regular damage had to be healed first before > aggravated damage was healed.. Aggravated damage cannot be healed. Damage sone simultaneously may be prevented in any order. Damage not prevented is handled by first handling normal damage (burning blood to heal or become wounded) and then by handling the aggravated damage (becoming wounded and, if wounded already, burning a blood to prevent destruction or be burned). > maybe we should get out more :) > > > > if a vampire inflicts succesfully aggravated and no-aggravated damage > > > in combat to a minion can this minion select what kind of damage > > > absorvs first? for example 2 aggravated and 2 non-aggravated, i play a > > > skin of rock to absorv the 2 aggravated and only lost 2 blood from the > > > normal one. > > > > All of the damage resolves at the same time, with non-aggravated > > damage applied first to maximize the chances of burning the vampire. > > You may prevent any of the damage with appropriate cards, you do not > > have to prevent the non-aggravated damage before the aggravated damage. > > > > Jason > > -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) VTES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/ [ quoted text not captured ]

In article <nNI56.60479$f36.2...@news20.bellglobal.com>, "Jason" <no...@here.com> wrote: > Can I get confirmation of this? Of course. See the LSJ quoted here: http://www.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=665991807 "> as far as the agg/regular question, normal damage is handled first > when you're actually TAKING the damage, but when you're preventing it > you can choose to prevent whichever you want. If you have a FoM in > play, I suspect you actually could choose to take the 1 normal > instead. Correct. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/" and here: http://www.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=611152426 "The only restriction on damage prevention is that you can't play it unless you have (preventable) damage left to prevent. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.geocities.com/vtesrep" But perhaps most relevantly, the LSJ quoted here: http://www.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=577886426 "> In this case, can the vampire first prevent agg. damage? In any case, if the vampire can prevent damage, he is free to prevent whichever point(s) of damage he chooses. But the prevention is handled before the healing or burning blood to prevent destruction. -- LSJ (vte...@wizards.com) V:TES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.wizards.com/VTES/rules.asp" > My group has been playing since the beginning and we were under the > impression that regular damage had to be healed first before > aggravated damage was healed.. Sorry you had the wrong impression. > > > if a vampire inflicts succesfully aggravated and no-aggravated > > > damage in combat to a minion can this minion select what kind > > > of damage absorvs first? for example 2 aggravated and 2 non- > > > aggravated, i play a skin of rock to absorv the 2 aggravated > > > and only lost 2 blood from the normal one. > > > > All of the damage resolves at the same time, with non-aggravated > > damage applied first to maximize the chances of burning the vampire. > > You may prevent any of the damage with appropriate cards, you do > > not have to prevent the non-aggravated damage before the > > aggravated damage. [ quoted text not captured ]

> Maybe you're new here, so listen: when The Lasombra or LSJ say something, no > need for further confirmation. > We all trust them. Not only is The Lasombra, and LSJ's word gospel, it's actually stated in the rulebook. 6.4.6 ... "If a vampire recieves both regular and aggravated damage at the same time, regular damage is handled first." Note that when it says at the same time, all damage from all sources during the current strike are applied at the same time in the strike resolution phase. > > My group has been playing since the beginning and we were under the > > impression that regular damage had to be healed first before aggravated > > damage was healed.. > > > > maybe we should get out more :) > > > > > > if a vampire inflicts succesfully aggravated and no-aggravated damage > > > > in combat to a minion can this minion select what kind of damage > > > > absorvs first? for example 2 aggravated and 2 non-aggravated, i play a > > > > skin of rock to absorv the 2 aggravated and only lost 2 blood from the > > > > normal one. > > > > > > All of the damage resolves at the same time, with non-aggravated > > > damage applied first to maximize the chances of burning the vampire. > > > You may prevent any of the damage with appropriate cards, you do not > > > have to prevent the non-aggravated damage before the aggravated damage. > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > [ quoted text not captured ]