Contemplating this brings up some interesting questions, funny ones and
some more serious ones...
FIrst off, will I still be playing VTES 10 years from now?
WIll the US economy be capable of supporting WW?
Can LSJ keep designing new library cards for another 8 expansions
without running into problems?
WHat group will we be at by then?
HOw long is LSJs contract with WW?
Does WW even plan to keep VTES around that long?
Could VTES become a type tournament game? (either grouping umber for
library cards or say sets up to whatever are legal in one type of
tournament, etc...)
How will WW keep up sales for VTES, what advertising can they do, or
mechanic changes, for soon those who are switching to VTR will soon
forget VTES...
(course some say that doesn't matter, cause they got into VTES before
they knew about VTM...)
You know... funny quetsions abound whilst thinking about this...
~screaming Vermillian
Screaming Vermillian a écrit :
> Contemplating this brings up some interesting questions, funny ones and
> some more serious ones...
LOL. Yes.
> FIrst off, will I still be playing VTES 10 years from now?
Very good question. Even one year from now is future fiction for me at
the moment.
> WIll the US economy be capable of supporting WW?
LOL.
> Can LSJ keep designing new library cards for another 8 expansions
> without running into problems?
10 years is 120 months. There is a new extension, currently, every 9
months. So, if the rate doesn't change, it's 13+ extensions.
> WHat group will we be at by then?
>
> HOw long is LSJs contract with WW?
>
> Does WW even plan to keep VTES around that long?
Can such a thing be planned such in advance ?
Has any CCG beyond Magic lasted as long as VTES ?
Really, VTES isn't Magic (luckily), and I have trouble imagining such a
long commercial lifespan for it. It's more likely that people would keep
on playing it with the cards they have for years after, as they did in
the "Dark Years", and as Blood Blowl (not a CCG) players do.
> Could VTES become a type tournament game? (either grouping umber for
> library cards or say sets up to whatever are legal in one type of
> tournament, etc...)
Allow me to vomit at the thought... BLEEEURRARGH. Thank you.
> How will WW keep up sales for VTES, what advertising can they do, or
> mechanic changes, for soon those who are switching to VTR will soon
> forget VTES...
I think it'll just have to be considered another thing, completely.
After all, Magic has no supporting RPG or fiction (nothing worth
anything anyway).
> (course some say that doesn't matter, cause they got into VTES before
> they knew about VTM...)
>
> You know... funny quetsions abound whilst thinking about this...
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Chills,
Orpheus
"Screaming Vermillian" <vermil...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1112301872....@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> Contemplating this brings up some interesting questions, funny ones and
> some more serious ones...
Luckily, I have just visited the future. Let me tell you about it
> FIrst off, will I still be playing VTES 10 years from now?
Yes, it will be the only game played at the casinos on Mars
> WIll the US economy be capable of supporting WW?
The concept of national economies will be fogotten and only realms of
influence will remain.
White Wolf will be its own realm.
> Can LSJ keep designing new library cards for another 8 expansions
> without running into problems?
LSJ will be first person to make the jump from the physical to the digital
as an Artificial Intellegence.
He will be designing set forever, but still won't be able to answer your
questions any faster than he does now.
> WHat group will we be at by then?
Group -6. LSJ begins creating the Dark Age as negative groups alternating
from positive to negative. Group 0
consists of crypt cards of LSJ's and Steve Wieck's combined 50 children.
> HOw long is LSJs contract with WW?
Contracts are irrelavent in the future.
> Does WW even plan to keep VTES around that long?
They have no choice after the video tape of the Achilli-Wieck incident is
used as blackmail to keep the presses rolling.
> Could VTES become a type tournament game? (either grouping umber for
> library cards or say sets up to whatever are legal in one type of
> tournament, etc...)
No
> How will WW keep up sales for VTES, what advertising can they do, or
> mechanic changes, for soon those who are switching to VTR will soon
> forget VTES...
By setting up dealers....err princes to hand it out to kids outside of
school.
--
Comments Welcome,
Norman S. Brown, Jr
XZealot
Archon of the Swamp
Screaming Vermillian wrote:
> HOw long is LSJs contract with WW?
I have a series of contracts, each only as long as it takes to
design a set. The latest expires around November of this year.
I also have a secondary "contract" to serve as net.rep, but
that is open-ended and I suspect both parties will mutually
agree to let it expire when a new developer steps in (or maybe
no, depending on the wishes of the next developer).
--
LSJ (vtesr...@TRAPwhite-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep (remove spam trap to reply)
Links to V:TES news, rules, cards, utilities, and tournament calendar:
http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/
LSJ a écrit :
> Screaming Vermillian wrote:
>>> HOw long is LSJs contract with WW?>
>
> I have a series of contracts, each only as long as it takes to
> design a set. The latest expires around November of this year.
>
> I also have a secondary "contract" to serve as net.rep, but
> that is open-ended and I suspect both parties will mutually
> agree to let it expire when a new developer steps in (or maybe
> no, depending on the wishes of the next developer).
Come on, Scott, we all know you're in there for life, and maybe more if
they ask me. Didn't you read the smaller lines before signing in your
blood ?!
Orpheus
"LSJ" <vtesr...@TRAPwhite-wolf.com> wrote
> I suspect both parties will mutually
> agree to let it expire when a new developer steps in (or maybe
> no, depending on the wishes of the next developer).
By 'developer', do you mean something different from 'designer' (yourself
and Robert Goudie) or 'project coordinator' (Steve Wieck)?
No developer is listed in the current rulebook or on the website (that I can
see). Are you considered the V:tES developer? If you are, then the sentence
you wrote above worries me. Given the fantastic job you've been doing for
years, I hope you stick around for as long as possible. I can't imagine the
acronym V:tES without the acronym LSJ attached.
Cheers,
WES
Seriously, the intersting question is, how long can VTES survive with a
RPG background that is no longer supported? Thats the big difference,
even in the long dead period under WotC there was still the RPG that
made VTES the actual card game for the WoD.
(Example: At my last tournament there was a young guy who wanted to
learn VTES, because he had played the computer game Bloodlines and
found it kewl. That will not happen in 10 years.)
Wes wrote:
> "LSJ" <vtesr...@TRAPwhite-wolf.com> wrote
>
>>>I suspect both parties will mutually
>>agree to let it expire when a new developer steps in (or maybe
>>no, depending on the wishes of the next developer).>
> By 'developer', do you mean something different from 'designer' (yourself
> and Robert Goudie) or 'project coordinator' (Steve Wieck)?
I meant lead designer. I'm fairly incautious with those terms.
> No developer is listed in the current rulebook or on the website (that I can
> see). Are you considered the V:tES developer? If you are, then the sentence
> you wrote above worries me. Given the fantastic job you've been doing for
> years, I hope you stick around for as long as possible. I can't imagine the
> acronym V:tES without the acronym LSJ attached.
The sentence implies no particular span of time, so don't let it worry you.
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XZealot wrote:
> > HOw long is LSJs contract with WW?
>
> Contracts are irrelavent in the future.
oh no!!!!! don't the assamites have enough trouble already????
cheers
Luciano "Baital" de Sampaio
VEKN Anarch Baron de Curitiba
VEKN Baali Clan Newsletter Editor
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| Wes wrote:
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|> No developer is listed in the current rulebook or on the website (that
|> I can see). Are you considered the V:tES developer? If you are, then
|> the sentence you wrote above worries me. Given the fantastic job
|> you've been doing for years, I hope you stick around for as long as
|> possible. I can't imagine the acronym V:tES without the acronym LSJ
|> attached.
|
| The sentence implies no particular span of time, so don't let it worry
you.
Heh. So when ARE you going to tell everyone you're stepping down after
the next set? Josh is getting impatient, you know; he wants his crack
at stuff too... while I can't say I blame him for being eager, I wonder
if he realizes what he's getting into, yanno? Should be amusing.
Later...
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Derek
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Right. Granted it might 10 years from now, but as time goes on, the
probabilit will get smaller and smaller.
This is what had me thinking about potentially incorporating VtRequiem
into VTES... but that's just crazy talk, right?
(I relinquish all rights to the crap I say, blah blah)
x5m...@gmx.de wrote:
> Seriously, the intersting question is, how long can VTES survive with
a
> RPG background that is no longer supported? Thats the big difference,
> even in the long dead period under WotC there was still the RPG that
> made VTES the actual card game for the WoD.
One of the long-term options for this is the yet unrealized potential
of the Storyline events (both the standard ones and the Build Your Own
Storyline type). I've also got a few ideas in the works that should
provide some additional quality source materials for future
development. More details to be revealed in the coming months.
-Robert
Robert Goudie
V:TES Storyline Director
rrgo...@earthlink.net
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There are many people that play VtES with no connection to VtM. Many
that started playing when knowing nothing about VtM. There are many
people that play the game because the mechanics of the game are that
good. Search the newsgroup for Dog Poo: The Eternal Struggle and you'll
see what I mean.
On the other hand, VtM can be a useful tool for getting more people
into the game. However, I'm confident people new to VR that learn White
Wolf has this card game based on Vampires, but structured a little
differently than VR could still find VtES appealing.
Later,
~Rehlow