LSJ will make it quick

Hi ! I couldn't read all the thread about siren's Lure so i have three simple question. I attempt to call a referendum with Siren#1. Interceptor#1 attempts to block. Siren #2 plays Siren's Lure. Interceptor #2 attempts to block. * At this point, can Siren#3 play another Siren's Lure ? If the answer is yes, wich siren will enter combat right after the referendum ? *Same situation as above, but Siren#1 is blocked and plays Change of target after Siren#2 's Siren's Lure has been played. The action is cancelled, but will Siren#2 enter combat with the previous wanna be blocker (Interceptor#1) anyway ?? *Can Interceptor#1 play obedience to avoid combat with Siren#2 ? reyda

In message <a4dlfb$5o1$1...@hadron.noos.net>, Reyda <re...@noos.fr> writes: >I attempt to call a referendum with Siren#1. Interceptor#1 attempts to >block. Siren #2 plays Siren's Lure. Interceptor #2 attempts to block. >* At this point, can Siren#3 play another Siren's Lure ? No, you can't stack pending combats like that. >If the answer is >yes, wich siren will enter combat right after the referendum ? Moot. >*Same situation as above, but Siren#1 is blocked and plays Change of target >after Siren#2 's Siren's Lure has been played. The action is cancelled, but >will Siren#2 enter combat with the previous wanna be blocker (Interceptor#1) >anyway ?? [LSJ 20011204] http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3C0D0D63.CBF487FC%40white- wolf.com&rnum=1 **** > The "cancel the action" phrasing makes me think that she's > not under NRA restrictions, but since the action goes as far > as being blocked, I'm not sure that that's correct. She would be restricted by NRA. "Canceled" doesn't mean "never happened". It's more like "irrevocably terminated". **** So it seems clear - since NRA would kick in - that the action has resolved (rather than vanishing backwards), it's just completed in a non-standard fashion. (NRA works on minions when the action resolves, you see, per Mask of a Thousand Faces et al.) So Siren's Lure would work. >*Can Interceptor#1 play obedience to avoid combat with Siren#2 ? No. Siren #2 is not an /acting/, younger vampire. (Card text.) -- James Coupe but I lust after the raw pow0r of c. PGP 0x5D623D5D together with the humping great EBD690ECD7A1FB457CA2 elephant arse of gnome. 13D7E668C3695D623D5D - Vashti

James Coupe wrote: > So it seems clear - since NRA would kick in - that the action has > resolved (rather than vanishing backwards), it's just completed in a > non-standard fashion. (NRA works on minions when the action resolves, > you see, per Mask of a Thousand Faces et al.) James's answers are all correct. To elaborate/clarify the NRA rule: the NRA rule functions equivalently to the following rule: When an action resolves (is blocked or is successful), the acting minion (at that time) receives a "Cannot preform <type>" NRA counter, where <type> is the type of the action, as described in the V:EKN NRA rules. A minion with such a counter cannot perform actions of type <type>. All NRA counters on all minions are burned at the end of each turn. (This handles ash-heap recycling, action canceling, etc. in the same manner as the "real" NRA rule does) -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/