Infernal Rule Update: KMW Preview

>From the WW Website: --- Infernal Rule Update Before KMW, The infernal penalty was paid to avoid tapping the infernal vampire in the untap phase. Now, as of KMW, the infernal penalty is paid to untap the infernal vampire (who now doesn't untap as normal). So if the vampire is untapped already at the start of your turn (either because he didn't tap or because he untapped some other way via Majesty or Change of Target of the like), you don't have to pay to keep him that way. --- Well, there's a surprise. Baali become less expensive (the first turn's free, kid!) and more appealing to leave untapped as reactors. Does this mean they're immune to the "does not untap as normal" clause of Sensory Deprivation, Flash Grenade, Wooden Stake and so on? I'm assuming they're still affected by "does not untap during the untap phase" effects like Mind Numb and Riddle Phantastique.

"Emmit Svenson" <emmits...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1105718643.2...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > Well, there's a surprise. Baali become less expensive (the first turn's > free, kid!) and more appealing to leave untapped as reactors. Does this > mean they're immune to the "does not untap as normal" clause of Sensory > Deprivation, Flash Grenade, Wooden Stake and so on? I'm assuming They're not immune per se. The effect is just redundnat with not untapping as normal. > they're still affected by "does not untap during the untap phase" > effects like Mind Numb and Riddle Phantastique. No. Mind Numb and Riddle are also in the same class. -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. V:TES homepage: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/ Though effective, appear to be ineffective -- Sun Tzu

On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:16:04 -0500, "LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> scrawled: >"Emmit Svenson" <emmits...@hotmail.com> wrote in message >news:1105718643.2...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... >> Well, there's a surprise. Baali become less expensive (the first turn's >> free, kid!) and more appealing to leave untapped as reactors. Does this >> mean they're immune to the "does not untap as normal" clause of Sensory >> Deprivation, Flash Grenade, Wooden Stake and so on? I'm assuming > >They're not immune per se. The effect is just redundnat with not >untapping as normal. > >> they're still affected by "does not untap during the untap phase" >> effects like Mind Numb and Riddle Phantastique. > >No. Mind Numb and Riddle are also in the same class. and if you order it right with blessing of the name, they tap during your untap from blessing of the name, then you pay a pool to untap them again. looks like the Baali of the Name deck (i think that's what it's called) just got a little boost. :) salem domain:canberra http://www.geocities.com/salem_christ.geo/vtes.htm (replace "hotmail" with "yahoo" to email)