Camille & Raven

Does anyone know, why Camille Devereux was replaced by the identical Raven in V:TES? I have always wondered that. -- Sakari Lahti sla...@iki.fi

Lahti Sakari wrote: > Does anyone know, why Camille Devereux was replaced by the identical Raven > in V:TES? I have always wondered that. The art on Camille was very close to a copyrighted image. When they replaced the art, WotC decided to change the name of the card as well. See the "source for card art" album on the Yahoo! vtes club: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/vtes -- LSJ (vte...@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc. Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and tournament rules: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/

LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:<3B7A7181...@white-wolf.com>... > Lahti Sakari wrote: > > Does anyone know, why Camille Devereux was replaced by the identical Raven > > in V:TES? I have always wondered that. > > The art on Camille was very close to a copyrighted image. > When they replaced the art, WotC decided to change the name of the card > as well. > > See the "source for card art" album on the Yahoo! vtes club: > http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/vtes Did they have to do that? Or was it just a choice on WOTC? Didn't know if keeping the name would have also given them problems. Also, just out of curiosity, when creating the VERY needed 5 cap Tremere/!Tremere, why did they end up with the same exact disciplines? Couldn't one have been AUS dom THA and the other AUS DOM tha. I just get real annoied when the sabbat vampires are just carbon copies of the camarilla with different names. Aaron.

----- Original Message ----- > Also, just out of curiosity, when creating the VERY needed 5 cap > Tremere/!Tremere, why did they end up with the same exact disciplines? > Couldn't one have been AUS dom THA and the other AUS DOM tha. I > just get real annoied when the sabbat vampires are just carbon copies > of the camarilla with different names. I think the reasoning was simply because the Tremere have lacked a low capacity Vampire with superior auspex since day one. The Aisling/Hannigan combo was something the warlocks really needed. -Grant Garvin Prince of Seekonk, Massachusetts http://www.naisp.net/users/nepenthe/

[ quoted text not captured ] Well, before that, what's the cheapest you could get AUS THA? 8-cap, sadly. I suppose they could have given one of them a special ability to make them different, but I'll take the Dominate, thankyouverymuch. See also old threads about: "Telepathic Tracking being no good for the !/Tremere." Note the improvement. =) -- Pat Ricochet Soul Jar'rn Fool of Atlanta

Pat Ricochet <sp...@socrates.gatech.edu> wrote in message news:<B7A03332.6793%sp...@socrates.gatech.edu>... [ quoted text not captured ] I'm not saying there is anything wrong with that, but look at this. Whats the cheapest you can get DOM AUS? working with tremere or !tremere thats 8! Other clans don't have the problems of the tremere. They finally got some guys with AUS, why double up on AUS THA? It would have been easy to make one THA and the other DOM? I like tremere, but I can't figure out why make them both the same? Hell you could have made them AUS THA for, and AUS THA dom and that would have been fine with me! :) Aaron

>Also, just out of curiosity, when creating the VERY needed 5 cap >Tremere/!Tremere, why did they end up with the same exact disciplines? > Couldn't one have been AUS dom THA and the other AUS DOM tha. I >just get real annoied when the sabbat vampires are just carbon copies >of the camarilla with different names. I agree with some of the others how having both of the vampires AUS dom THA was really good for both clans (Tremere and !Tremere). The Tremere clans really could have used such reliable mid-caps. And while one "AUS dom THA" and one something else decent would still have helped a lot, producing two "AUS dom THA"'s provides an excellent, sturdy foundation for many Tremere decks. One thing I am annoyed by however is that Aisling gets a special (however useless) and Hannigan does not. I know it's probably b/c Aisling is a signature character, but I don't see why this means White Wolf should play favorites... Halcyan 2

> See the "source for card art" album on the Yahoo! vtes club: > http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/vtes I did. Hubba Hubba! DH

On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 08:56:33 -0400, LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote: >Lahti Sakari wrote: >> Does anyone know, why Camille Devereux was replaced by the identical Raven >> in V:TES? I have always wondered that. > >The art on Camille was very close to a copyrighted image. >When they replaced the art, WotC decided to change the name of the card >as well. > 'replaced' though? Arent they both playable and unique vamps unto their own? T

In message <3b7eee38.79289886@news>, Talo...@hotmail.com writes >>The art on Camille was very close to a copyrighted image. >>When they replaced the art, WotC decided to change the name of the card >>as well. > >'replaced' though? Arent they both playable and unique vamps unto >their own? Camille and Raven are both entirely separate and unique vampires, yes. -- James Coupe PGP Key: 0x5D623D5D EBD690ECD7A1F You scumbag, you maggot, you cheap lousy faggot B457CA213D7E6 Happy Christmas your arse, I pray God it's our last 68C3695D623D5D