Life in the STYX

Proposition: I make a deck of 70 equipment cards. I put 12 Darius Styx's in my vampire pile. Pull him out, and tap to look at *MY* hand to randomly throw one of them on him per turn. right? can I put seven assault rifles on the bastard for free? -- ____________________________________________________________________ Earl, are you okay??? Earl????? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Robert Courtney Campbell Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 uucp: ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt3680b Internet: gt3...@prism.gatech.edu http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gt3680b

>Proposition: > >I make a deck of 70 equipment cards. I put 12 Darius Styx's in my vampire >pile. Pull him out, and tap to look at *MY* hand to randomly throw one of >them on him per turn. > >right? > > >can I put seven assault rifles on the bastard for free? First - why not put nine Darius' in your crypt, you'll still always get one out. And second, your idea is not legal as you cannot do a direct action against yourself. Nice try though! Pete

In article <DnE68...@cruzio.com>, rit...@bbs.cruzio.com wrote: [Re R.C. Campbell's idea to use Darius Styx to get Weapons from own hand] > Yes. Perhaps more importantly, a deck that was roughly 1/2 Equipment > would be able to get Assault Rifles fairly frequently. No. As the rules are written, this would not be legal (no self-(D) actions). House rules around here are self-directed (D)-actions become undirected. However, the DTR is a wee bit different. :) To each, their own. "I can send and receive e-mail even over the Internet"-aol commercial @#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$ # Adrian Sullivan sull...@cslab.uwlax.edu Spoutingly yours 8^) # $ GAT/CS/O/WS R+++* tv&--- b++(+++)&+ t X++&-- 5->? e+*>++++ PS+&-+ @ # PE&++&- C(+++)$ UX+>+++$ N++(+) K+>++++ w---$>? M++$ r(+) y*+? 3.1# @#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$@#$

The Corrupter <sull...@cslab.uwlax.edu> writes: >In article <DnE68...@cruzio.com>, rit...@bbs.cruzio.com wrote: >[Re R.C. Campbell's idea to use Darius Styx to get Weapons from own hand] > >> Yes. Perhaps more importantly, a deck that was roughly 1/2 >Equipment >> would be able to get Assault Rifles fairly frequently. >No. As the rules are written, this would not be legal (no self-(D) >actions). House rules around here are self-directed (D)-actions become >undirected. However, the DTR is a wee bit different. :) To each, their >own. Under those house rules, I would definately consider adding another house rule: 'Darius can only use his ability on *other* methuselahs' Since that card was written after the power-giving (D) symbol was the standard, and self-directing Darius is far too unbalancing (since you can see your own hand anytime). It's not a new concept: You can't bleed yourself, you can't enter combat with yourself, you can't pick cards randomly from your own hand. How's that work for you, Corrupter? -- L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.sc.edu) | File Not Found... http://www.math.sc.edu/~sjohnson | Delete User instead? (Y/y) Graphics Specialist and V:tES Rulemonger. |

faul...@mail.utexas.edu (Greg Faulkner) writes: >In article <4h46or$b...@redwood.cs.sc.edu>, sjoh...@math.scarolina.edu (L. Scott Johnson) says: >>It's not a new concept: >>You can't bleed yourself, you can't enter combat with yourself, you >>can't pick cards randomly from your own hand. >All that makes perfect sense. But consider another combination. If the >first vampire was to play Pulse at the Inferior, could Darius Styx then >use his power to select a card from the other methusalahs hands while >also seeing the cards? Or does this contradict the need for the selection >to be random? I feel it would be acceptable, and it would be the only way >I would ever use Darius's power. Random is random. If you're looking at her hand, then you'll have to find some way of picking a card randomly (roll a seven-sided die, for instance). Just because you can look at her hand doesn't mean you get to use that information to make your selection non-randomly. Card text says 'choose at random' - without saying that this only applies if you aren't looking at her hand in the first place. -- L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.sc.edu) | A titanic intellect... http://www.math.sc.edu/~sjohnson | In a world full of icebergs. [ quoted text not captured ]

The Corrupter <sull...@cslab.uwlax.edu> writes: >In article <4h46or$b...@redwood.cs.sc.edu>, sjoh...@math.scarolina.edu >(L. Scott Johnson) wrote: >> It's not a new concept: >> You can't bleed yourself, you can't enter combat with yourself, you >> can't pick cards randomly from your own hand. >I would disallow combat with one's own minions under the above house >rules, but why bleeding? Bleeding is already restricted officialy, and I see no compelling reason to make a house rule to unrestrict it. [ quoted text not captured ]

In article <4h46or$b...@redwood.cs.sc.edu>, sjoh...@math.scarolina.edu (L. Scott Johnson) says: >It's not a new concept: >You can't bleed yourself, you can't enter combat with yourself, you >can't pick cards randomly from your own hand. > All that makes perfect sense. But consider another combination. If the first vampire was to play Pulse at the Inferior, could Darius Styx then use his power to select a card from the other methusalahs hands while also seeing the cards? Or does this contradict the need for the selection to be random? I feel it would be acceptable, and it would be the only way I would ever use Darius's power. Greg

> It's not a new concept: > You can't bleed yourself, you can't enter combat with yourself, you > can't pick cards randomly from your own hand. > > How's that work for you, Corrupter? > -- > L. Scott Johnson (sjoh...@math.sc.edu) | File Not Found... > http://www.math.sc.edu/~sjohnson | Delete User instead? (Y/y) > Graphics Specialist and V:tES Rulemonger. | Ok so what is the difference between using your rule instead of the official rule? The only difference I can see is that you can Charnas yourself and there might be a way to enter combat with yourself(madness network and eagle sight?) but I don't see why you want to add this to an already huge list of house rules when it has a very small effect on the game. Olethros